Passport

bolliwoodi

I am going to oakwood in wales in August and I dont know or not weather i need a passport

i have been told by a few people that ireland and england have an agreement regarding this and no passports required

But other people have been telling me i do need it

My passport has to be renewed if this is the case but im getting a different story off everyone

Anyone know?

Ruu_Old

Have you got a drivers license? That would work.

bolliwoodi

patrickc2006 wrote:

are you going on the ferry or plane? neither will ask for a passport, they will want you to provide acceptable i.d in either case, which I'm sure you you can find out what they deem acceptable on their website. (ferries don't even ask for i.d) i did the oakwood trip from rosslare last year and no i.d needed just tickets asked for

we are taking the ferry from wexford

bolliwoodi

nope no drivers licence

patrickc

are you going on the ferry or plane? neither will ask for a passport, they will want you to provide acceptable i.d in either case, which I'm sure you you can find out what they deem acceptable on their website. (ferries don't even ask for i.d) i did the oakwood trip from rosslare last year and no i.d needed just tickets asked for

davyjose

Ruu wrote:

Have you got a drivers license? That would work.

It has to be a full licence

bolliwoodi

patrickc2006 wrote:

are you going on the ferry or plane? neither will ask for a passport, they will want you to provide acceptable i.d in either case, which I'm sure you you can find out what they deem acceptable on their website. (ferries don't even ask for i.d) i did the oakwood trip from rosslare last year and no i.d needed just tickets asked for

we are getting the ferry from wexford

patrickc

bolliwoodi wrote:

we are getting the ferry from wexford

something wierd with the repies in this thread, there shouldn't be any problems we were just asked for tickets..

liamo

I always travel with a passport to/from the UK even though I've always been informed that all that is needed is a good means of identity (eg driver's license, etc). My rationale is that all it takes is one security goon who doesn't know that a passport is not essential and your holiday is ruined.

Having said that, here's a link to check out.

Extract :
A passport is not required for travel between Great Britain and Ireland, Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands or the Isle of Man.

Regards,

Liam

Spocker

Information from Citizensinformation.ie:

Common Travel Area between Ireland and the United Kingdom

robinph

Your going to Wales but then go on to ask about an agreement between Ireland and England over not needing a passport.

You'll be OK without a passport for getting the ferry across to Wales, but they might stop you at the border to England if you decide to go any further east if you don't have your passport on you though.

kensutz

When I was on the ferry from Rosslare to Fishguard the bus got stopped and everyone ordered off it so they can search and everyone got asked for ID or passport. Best to get one just in case

Irish Wolf

robinph wrote:

Your going to Wales but then go on to ask about an agreement between Ireland and England over not needing a passport.

You'll be OK without a passport for getting the ferry across to Wales, but they might stop you at the border to England if you decide to go any further east if you don't have your passport on you though.

Not to mention the problems they may have getting back into Wales from England...

Stark

davyjose wrote:

It has to be a full licence

Why, do they expect you to drive the ferry?

davyjose

Stark wrote:

Why, do they expect you to drive the ferry?

No believe it or not, when you pass your driving test, it doesn't include ferries - it's got something to do with tracing it back to your address or something.

themole

You don't need a passport to travel to the UK.

Having said that, you can get your passport in 3 days with proof of travel, so if i were you i would do that.

Sam Vimes

davyjose wrote:

No believe it or not, when you pass your driving test, it doesn't include ferries - it's got something to do with tracing it back to your address or something.

a provisional license has the address on it too. i'm confused, is a pink license easier to trace than other types?


full licenses are pink right?

Stark

davyjose wrote:

No believe it or not, when you pass your driving test, it doesn't include ferries - it's got something to do with tracing it back to your address or something.

A provisional driving licence is perfectly valid as photo ID. Even Ryanair accept it, and they're renowned ***** when it comes to refusing people travel for whatever reason they can think up. The address on your driving licence means nothing, whether you have a full licence or a provisional licence as there's no requirement in Ireland for you to keep it up to date.

testicle

robinph wrote:

Your going to Wales but then go on to ask about an agreement between Ireland and England over not needing a passport.

Wales is governed by England.

Besprechen

a work photo ID is sufficient, i show mine everytime i fly back to ireland from uk and havent once been asked for driving licence (even though i carry it just in case) or a passport, never been asked for ID when taking the ferry.

looksee

testicle wrote:

Wales is governed by England.

Do the Welsh know about this?

robinph

testicle wrote:

Wales is governed by England.

Cork is governed by Dublin more so than Wales is governed by England. Wales at least do get to make up some of their own laws and add funny words to their road signs.

testicle

looksee wrote:

Do the Welsh know about this?

They do, and have known so since 1536.

robinph wrote:

Wales at least do get to make up some of their own laws and add funny words to their road signs.

They don't get to make up their own laws (you're confusing them with Scotland!) - but what they do get to do is amend some English Law, within limits. Powers set to expand after the Assembly elections this year.

robinph

testicle wrote:

They don't get to make up their own laws (you're confusing them with Scotland!) - but what they do get to do is amend some English Law, within limits. Powers set to expand after the Assembly elections this year.

Still does not mean that they are governed my England though, and didn't they already ban smoking ahead of England and that sounds a bit like making their own laws to me.

Irish Wolf

testicle wrote:

They don't get to make up their own laws

Don't they?

delta_bravo

Irish Wolf wrote:

Don't they?

Burn.

I think the thing with the provisional licence not properly accepted is that it is your local county council that acutally administers the issue of the licence, whereas i presume it is the Department of Transport for Full licence

davyjose

delta_bravo wrote:

I think the thing with the provisional licence not properly accepted is that it is your local county council that acutally administers the issue of the licence, whereas i presume it is the Department of Transport for Full licence

Yeah - I knew there was a reason, I just didn't know what it was, some recent pub talk whittled it down to the address thing, but now I know. Thank you DB

testicle

Irish Wolf wrote:

Don't they?

It appeas that the Assembley Elections have taken place so! If you read the last line of my second post, you will note that I mentioned this!

As regards the date of the smoking ban, that was amending westminister legislation.

robinph

Wales is still not governed by England though.

Spocker

delta_bravo wrote:

I think the thing with the provisional licence not properly accepted is that it is your local county council that acutally administers the issue of the licence, whereas i presume it is the Department of Transport for Full licence

Thats not quite correct:

CitizensInformation.ie: wrote:

While the Department of Transport has overall responsibility for driver licensing, your local authority is a licensing authority and issue driving licences.

There is no distinction between full or provisional licences for identity purposes. More information here:

Jumbo156

When provisional licences are issued the address is not checked, it is checked for Full driving licence.
If anyone has joined Xtravision will know, they will not accept provisional licences for a form of ID but will accept Full Driving licecnces

Stark

Jumbo156 wrote:

When provisional licences are issued the address is not checked, it is checked for Full driving licence.

I don't understand this. In both cases, when you go for a driving licence, the licence is posted out to your address. Therefore, incorrect address = no licence in both cases. Also, in both cases you're not obliged to get a new licence when your address changes. When I got both my provisional and full licences, I had them posted to addresses that I was renting at the time in both cases. So I don't see what extra verification they could have done on my address.

5starpool

Just get a damn passport, you never know when it will come in handy. You will presumably have someneed to travel further afield than Britain sometime soon, if not then you should expand your horizons.

bolliwoodi

5starpool wrote:

Just get a damn passport

no need to be rude

i am a terrible traveller- get awful motion sickness so i dont travel anywhere so dont see the point getting it if its not needed cos i wont be using it

Ruen

robinph wrote:

Still does not mean that they are governed my England though, and didn't they already ban smoking ahead of England and that sounds a bit like making their own laws to me.

Either way the Common Travel Area is between Ireland and the UK...Wales is in the UK so that means you dont need a passport to go to Wales.

Ruen

Jumbo156 wrote:

When provisional licences are issued the address is not checked, it is checked for Full driving licence.
If anyone has joined Xtravision will know, they will not accept provisional licences for a form of ID but will accept Full Driving licecnces

My provisional licence has my address on it so they obviously do check it if they print it on the thing.
Wow, it doesnt matter what way Xtravision give out membership, if they wanted they could accept a bus pass. The rules are completely different when you're going to a different country.

mikeanywhere

Basically if you have an ID that has a picture you can use it ie drivers licence or passport. If it doesnt have a picture, you can not "officially" use it.

I fly and/or drive back and forth to the UK on average every 2-3 weeks to do various photography work. As I have a UK driving licence, I have had some stick from the immigration boys at Shannon & Dublin (especially the new ones trying to be all official) as I was told I needed to use my passport.

I always have my licence on me for car hire so I tend to stick with that as its easier to carry and then dont have the added worry about losing my passport.

OPENROAD

You will need photo id getting back into Ireland, prob won't be any checks in Wales, but deffo checks in Ireland. They can be a bit difficult in Ireland.