a bunch of hands

phantom_lord

1. original raiser was 20/16/3, solid enough, nothing much to say about him. this is the first time a shortstack has got in the way of play.

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SB ($111.45)
BB ($20)
UTG ($110.80)
MP ($4.30)
Hero ($212.78)
Button ($74.90)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Jc, Jh.
UTG raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 2 folds, BB calls $19 (All-In), UTG calls $16, Hero...


2.
42/22/1.6, he was actually a reasonably decent post flop player, albeit a bit overly aggressive, min raised c-bets quite a few times, folded on the turn usually. i'm been raising lots of pots pf, so i may not be given much respect here.

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SB ($58.12)
BB ($100)
UTG ($211.60)
Hero ($152.46)
Button ($184.96)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Jd, Jc.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, Button calls $4, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($13) Td, Ts, 4s (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9, Button folds, SB raises to $20, Hero calls $11.

Turn: ($53) 2d (2 players)
SB calls $57.62 (All-In), Hero...


3.

button 41/33 sb 17/12/2
there wasn't much a huge aggression pf at the table, sb 3bet the button a couple of times over about an hour, didn't get to showndown, nothing really outta line. I've a good image.

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SB ($100)
Hero ($99)
UTG ($88)
MP ($182.95)
CO ($98.50)
Button ($102.75)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Kc, Ac.
3 folds, Button raises to $4, SB raises to $13, Hero...

fold/raise and call shove?

4.

this guy played pretty much every hand pf, peeled a lot of flops. there's a fair bit of min raising pf, i just tend to raise normally as if they've limped.

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CO ($100.80)
Button ($29.77)
SB ($106.35)
BB ($41.50)
UTG ($81.52)
Hero ($198.23)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ah, Qh. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $5, 3 folds, BB calls $4, UTG calls $3.

Flop: ($15.50) 8s, Ad, 7c (3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $10, BB folds, UTG calls $10.

Turn: ($35.50) 8c (2 players)
UTG bets $18, Hero calls $18.

River: ($71.50) Ts (2 players)
UTG bets $29, Hero...


5.

23/17/3, only notes on him say he's aware of position. haven't really played with him, just datamined hands.

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Hero ($163.70)
UTG ($146.80)
MP ($138.50)
CO ($100)
Button ($197.84)
SB ($37.82)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
1 fold, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Button raises to $5, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, MP calls $4.

Flop: ($15.50) 4, 6, 9(3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, Button bets $11, Hero calls $11, MP folds.

Turn: ($37.50) 7(2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($37.50) A(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $28, Hero...

6.

really simple hand, flopped a set vs tag, other than maybe raising a more on the turn, is this an ok line?


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MP ($139.95)
Button ($122)
Hero ($100)
BB ($109.75)
UTG ($115.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8, 8.
2 folds, Button raises to $3.5, Hero calls $3, 1 fold.

Flop: ($8) K, 8, 9(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $6, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($20) 6(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $10, Hero raises to $27.5, Button calls $17.50.

River: ($75) 6(2 players)
Hero calls $99.50 (All-In)


i shoved for 63 on the river.


7.

villain is decent tag, 23/15/1.4

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MP ($366.81)
CO ($98.50)
Button ($100)
Hero ($103.45)
BB ($105.50)
UTG ($119.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6d, 6c.
3 folds, Button raises to $4, SB calls $3.50, Hero raises to $13.5, Button folds, SB calls $10.

Flop: ($32) 8c, 2s, 7s (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $24, Hero calls $24.

Turn: ($80) 6h (2 players)
SB checks, Hero...

this is probably not too interesting cause we haven't got much behind, but if we were deeper (say 150-200bbs )should I be getting all in here?

bops

1) Call! - you have position and will probably know better where you stand on the flop

2) Yuk! - reraise to $28 - button folds, SB calls - flop xxx SB checks you bet 42 and take it down - simple!!

3) Fold! - he has an 8!!

4) Fold! - i hate how you played this - if you call him and your jacks are good - you deserve a medal! at the very least reraise his flop bet

5) Fine! - although i may lead at this flop! Hoping he has AA AK etc to get it all in quicker!!

6) nah! - a decent bet of 50 odd would do - the only real hand to fear here is the FD - although he could have 88 or 77 :eek: (which would serve you right:p )

Primewise

bop wrote:

Preflop: Hero is CO with Jc, Jh.
UTG raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $4, 2 folds, BB calls $19 (All-In), UTG calls $16, Hero...

Calling is a bad choice, since you’ll be facing difficult decisions on the flop.

You can expect to be called if you push, since you just flat called the first raise, indicating weakness.

At least one of them has overcards, and one of them could easily have QQ+, so it’s a race at best. So I can objectively see that a fold is good here, although in practise I find it hard to lay down JJ, even though it’s a danger hand for me!

bop wrote:

Preflop: Hero is MP with Jd, Jc.
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, Button calls $4, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold.

Flop: ($13) Td, Ts, 4s (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9, Button folds, SB raises to $20, Hero calls $11.

Turn: ($53) 2d (2 players)
SB calls $57.62 (All-In), Hero...

He either has a 10, or he put you on AK/AQ and is firing the second barrel with air.
Against a random opponent I would fold. If this player has a history of attacking the preflop raiser I might find a call in there.

bop wrote:

Preflop: Hero is BB with Kc, Ac.
3 folds, Button raises to $4, SB raises to $13, Hero...

fold/raise and call shove?

With a 3rd raise you might make QQ fold. AQ, 1010, JJ should fold, so I could be tempted to raise. Calling is baad.

bop wrote:

Preflop: Hero is MP with Ah, Qh. UTG posts a blind of $1.
UTG (poster) raises to $1.5, Hero raises to $5, 3 folds, BB calls $4, UTG calls $3.
River: ($71.50) Ts (2 players)
UTG bets $29, Hero...

Its obvious to him that you have an ace, so he is most likely value betting you with an 8.
A straight is also possible if he made a loose call with 6/9, though that is unlikely.

You should fold here.

jimmii

1) Do you think he'd re-raise to issolate him with AQ or AK? I don't mind a fold there but would probably be inclined to call with position as it'll probably be cheap enough to find out if they are on a big ace or not. With the SS $20 in there your getting decent implied odds on hitting your set if you are behind.

2) After he raised the flop his only move left was to push hard to tell where you are but I think its got to be a fold although if he's very aggressive he will probably assume you will struggle to call without at least a ten.

3) I don't like AK after a raise and re-raise your at best 50/50 and could be a long way back.

4) Looks like a suckout. These are the hands they make them keep calling second pair bets on the flop when the pre-flop raise CBs on an A high flop. Get away now and punish them in the future.

5) I would raise the flop and bet the turn after the check. He could have a lot of things after the checks so hard to tell JJ could be good they could have TT, a 9 with a flush draw all sorts of things. When you fold they probably have nothing and when you call they always have an ace!!

6) I think its fines. Might lead the flop the odd time after hitting a set but there isn't much else out there for them on this one so its a good one to check.

7) Getting it in here could get a call but if your 200bb then I think your only getting called by 88, 77, 22 & straights.

Dantes

Just an aside, does anyone 3bet with JJ? I've been having some good success 3 betting it over the last while... Showing a good profit with JJ over 20-30k hands.

I'm not saying every situation but in hands 1 & 5, I would probably 3bet.

It may have actually turned out to be the wrong thing to do looking at the proceeding actions, but thats results based...

For mine own education, would everyone just call in these situations?

Obviously its player/read/feel dependent...

Thanks

Ste05

1. The UTG call is pretty scary, I might fold here, it's just such an awkward spot, the one thing going for the hand is we have position, but because of the size of the pot and the size of the UTG stack, it's very difficult to play this hand.

2. Yuck, check min-raise then push turn, feck it I'd call him and see what he has, I just can't see him doing this with a 10.

3. Well I'm not folding. I think I just go ahead and raise and call a shove hopefully from the button (unlikely).

4. I make it about 7 or 8 Pre-Flop, as played I call.

5. I'd have bet the turn, and I probably call now and lose the hand.

6. I lead the flop there almost always, I really dislike the turn check-raise but if you did that you have to open push the River. I don't like this line at all TBH.

7. I'd just call pre-flop. As played I'd check the turn and get all-in on the River, and if the stacks were deeper, I'd bet the turn and be willing to get All-In.

jimmii

I prefer to keep the 3 betting with JJ against loose players when in position. In hand 1 its a tight player raising UTG which you have to give some respect to. Hand 5 your OOP post flop so your going to have to take a leap on the flop and if you get raised your not going to be in a tough spot.

phantom_lord

1. I folded, ak vs aq, it was just gonna be a really awkward hand to play.
2. he had jq, ship it.
3. i made it 35 i think, sb shoved, I called, didn't feel great about it, but i don't think there's any other way to play it. ako is clearly better than aks as he went on to hit one of his two flush draws!
4. i folded. i was after calling a few rivers on hands like this and was never good, i don't really beat much anyway. still felt wrong!
5. i thought about it for a while and called and mhwg. looking back, i really should have snap called tho, he's loose enough on the button, and he's pretty much gonna bet this 100% of the time since it's such a good card to bluff, esp how weakly I've played the hand. betting the turn prob would have been better tho.
6. i should have made it 30+ on the turn, I think i prefer this to donk betting or cr the flop, but i'm not too sure.
7. i was the villain in this hand, nobody even considers that 66 is behind?? the way the hand played out pf i think a tag in the sb would only have 22-88/99 here. i had 77.

Katooey

Hand 6:

Why raise the turn and not the flop?

On this board I much prefer raising the flop. You say he is a tag. By calling the flop and raising the turn you are saying that the turn has improved your hand and that you have >= 2 pair (possibly diamonds and tp). A tag will probably fold a King.