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suicide

  • 28-05-2007 3:53pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭


    hi,
    i think im depressed and i'm not joking about it...
    I spend a lot of time thinking of all the possible ways i can suicide and lately all i do is laying on the couch doing nothing but smoking and drinking...i dont shower,don't go out, don't wanna talk to my friends...
    I can feel my parents looking at me and being worried about the quantity and what i drink and i am thinking of buying stuff and hide it in my room.
    i dont wanna go 2 a psycolocist as i think they don't work for me.
    what would you suggest?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Go to your GP, and have a chat with him. You don't really know whether a trained professional will work for you until you try one, yeah? Its better to make an effort to go and try to make change things so that you get some bit of happiness out of life rather than, well, making plans for something permanent...and totally final.

    Good luck, mate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,628 ✭✭✭Asok


    <snip>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    Asok wrote:
    <snip>

    Not that smart. Reported.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭chump


    buy yourself a squidgy ball and take your frustration out on it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    asok: banned

    Do not post such advice again


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 668 ✭✭✭karen3212


    I am sorry to hear you are feeling so low.

    I have to second the advice given above, your GP is really a great place to start.

    They may be able to point out why you are feeling so down, different reasons for everyone.

    Everyone is unique, everyone is special in their own way, please if you do not at the moment realise how unique you are, then I think you should get help as soon as you can. Going to the GP can't really make you feel any worse, just try, pull yourself up and make an appointment and go and find out why you are feeling so low.

    Please try.... I hope you find the strength to get help,

    suicide cannot be undone, there is no coming back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,568 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    Asok wrote:
    <snip>
    I hope you meant that in the context of the OP going to see a psychiatrist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    chump: be warned on unhelpful posting.

    If you want to report a post, hit the report post button to the left, that highlights it to all mods.

    Mark


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭barrett1965


    I would like to recommend a great book entitled: Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor E Frankl. I appreciate it might be difficult for you to concentrate at moment given your present state of mind, but try if you can. Of course talk to your GP as well.

    There is always hope.

    Good luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    I would like to recommend a great book entitled: Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor E Frankl. I appreciate it might be difficult for you to concentrate at moment given your present state of mind, but try if you can. Of course talk to your GP as well.

    There is always hope.

    Good luck.

    A friend recommended that to me before. Its very well written.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭Drift


    I'd like to ask why you think a counsellor wouldn't work for you. If you've never been to one before it might be worth a try - the way I see it they can't make you feel any worse so whats the harm in going even if its to go to a few sessions and be certain its not for you + if you do go I'd tell them straight out that you have doubts about whether it will work for you but you want to try it anyway just to get the ball rolling at finding a right solution.

    If you don't like them because you've been before and it didn't work maybe you just had a sh!te counsellor you could get a second opinion just to be sure. Also its worth noting that not all people who can give you counselling are psychologists who are "judging" you. Some people are just there to talk. The Samaritans spring to mind.

    The reason I'm mentioning counsellor's is that they're trained to deal with the feelings you have. Training and experience are very important. If you want to find out whats wrong with your car you go to a mechanic with the right qualifications similarly if you'd like to get an insight into your feelings you deal with someone who knows what they're talking about. They've dealt with depression before.

    If you really don't want to see someone like this though maybe you could try talking to one or both of your parents. From what you said they seem like good people who are interested in your well-being. If you tell them how you're feeling I'm sure they'll make an effort to help you. You don't have to do everything yourself. The fact that you posted here to ask about the issue is a sign that you are willing to do something to help yourself. So now that the ball is rolling it would be a shame to let it stop - please take the next step and discuss it with someone close to you. Think of how great it could be in a years time looking back saying I'm glad I made the first step.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭Snowdrop


    Exactly a year ago I was in a similar mindset following the death of my daughter after quite a long illness. The only thing that kept me going was my family. I had a new baby and three other small children to look after. I took one day even one hour at a time. I hardly went out and avoided meeting and talking to people. I took my frustrations out on my husband and kids. Finally my mother made me go to my GP. We just chatted but it was a turning point for me. Finally things are starting to get back on track. I am not back to normal yet but am feeling a lot more positive. My point is please talk to someone. You will be surprised at just how freer you will feel. I am learning not to take life for granted and not to let the little things get to me as much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭matt-dublin


    Excellent advice given here on such a sensitive topic.

    I think everyone is right, you should go and have a chat with your gp. Find out why you're feeling depressed. Is it physical, emotional, did something happen that is causing you to feel depressed etc etc.

    You may feel that suicide is an option and that it may solve all your problems, but remember that the people you would leave behind in your life would have to deal with it too. and adversly may put them in a situation where they might be pointing in the same direction as you.

    I saved one of my closest friends several years ago from an intentional overdose. Something he told me he wich he had never done. which he didn't realise until i saved his life. After returning from hospital i sat with him and talked about things, and i agreed to take him to his gp and a counsiller.

    After several months he was back on track and leading a great life with a new girlfriend and new job. And still is doing extreemly well, I don't see too much of him nowadays but we're still in touch and he's basically started a new life with a new perspective.

    You can only live life once. So don't throw it away. Talking helps more than people think. It helps to get things off your chest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 178 ✭✭barrett1965


    A friend recommended that to me before. Its very well written.

    Indeed, what did it for me in the book was his suggestion of finding 'meaning' in my life' That's all that was need for me. If Frankl can find HOPE after his experiences in a concentration camp, then there is hope for me too! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭starlight07


    I can only imagine the way you are feeling right now. I really agree with the other posters on this, speak with your gp. Youve made the first step by posting on here and hopefully the responses will encourage u to speak to proffessionals. Speaking to someone will help you get to the root of why you are feeling so low. If you do get help you will look back on this time and realise that its not as bad as you thought.

    One of my friends committed suicide and I can only tell you that the devastation it brought to her family was so upsetting to watch. Nobody knew the emotional hell she was going through so nobody had a chance to help. Suicide is such a huge problem in Ireland but there is so much help available that I hope you will use it. Think of your family and friends, they love you and would do anything to help you through this tough time but you need to let them know how you are feeling.

    I hope you can feel better soon x


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    all i do is laying on the couch doing nothing but smoking and drinking...i dont shower,don't go out, don't wanna talk to my friends...

    Hello love. The first and most positive step you can take is to stop drinking from today onwards. It's a depressant and if you are not in the best frame of mind it will only exacerbate your worries and fears and make you feel really rotten. If you are drinking a lot you are not thinking with a clear head. You are worth SO much more than that hon. Go and have a shower and go and see your doctor for a wee chat. I'm glad you posted, post whenever you need some moral support. Make an appointment with your doctor today and let us know how you go xx


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    'thank you for all your advices...
    i don't wanna go to a counsellor coz i feel ashamed to talk about my problems even if i know he wouldn't jugde me or consider me a freak.
    My family loves me a lot and they consider me a very clever,special girl..well..i don't feel like that..i am disappointed by myself as i can't achieve what i want from life.
    Recently something happened to me that shocked me and now i have been trying to mend the broken pieces of my heart but it doesn't work.'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    Recently something happened to me that shocked me and now i have been trying to mend the broken pieces of my heart but it doesn't work.'

    What happened to you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    'thank you for all your advices...
    i don't wanna go to a counsellor coz i feel ashamed to talk about my problems even if i know he wouldn't jugde me or consider me a freak.
    My family loves me a lot and they consider me a very clever,special girl..well..i don't feel like that..i am disappointed by myself as i can't achieve what i want from life.
    Recently something happened to me that shocked me and now i have been trying to mend the broken pieces of my heart but it doesn't work.'

    A counsellor woudn't judge or anything like that.

    Still you have started the communication process here, so keep it going if you like, begin to unload what is burdening you.

    i actually think it does show that you are special and unqiue.
    Would you like to talk a little about what happened to shock you and break your heart? As much as you want to, no more


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭Drift


    i don't wanna go to a counsellor coz i feel ashamed to talk about my problems even if i know he wouldn't jugde me or consider me a freak.

    Is it ashamed to talk about them in general or ashamed that your family might find out .... because if you approach a counsellor or your gp you can be treated confidentially they won't mention anything to your family if you don't want them too. If your GP is a family friend or something just approach a counsellor or another GP that isn't and explain the situation.

    I think the fact that you've started to discuss how you feel here on this thread is a good start ..... you're being open with us.

    If you want to approach a counsellor without having to go through a GP you could give this crowd a try. I have no idea how good/bad they are but I heard about them on the radio and I thought it was good that you could ring and book a counsellor directly without having to go through a long rigmarole. They're a "Suicide and Self-Harm" Clinic and they're free:

    Pieta House, Old Lucan Road, Lucan, Co Dublin, can be contacted at (01) 601 0000, from 9.30am to 5pm.
    mary@pieta.ie
    http://www.pieta.ie

    I'd agree with the other posters who said that cutting down or laying off the alcohol may help a lot. And thats something very easy that you could do yourself without having to talk or discuss things with anyone.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭kieranmcg1


    hey man sorry to hear ur feelin so down . but always remember suicide is not the answer it will only make things worse . what i suggest is get off the drink well not totally but cut it down . Get urself a shower and go for a night out and see if that will help ya start socailising and it might lift ur spirits .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭Femelade


    Like everyone has said, please go and see your GP.
    I have a friend that honestly would not be here today if he hadnt gone to see one.


  • Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    I wouldnt be here today....

    My father wanted to commit suicide after a car crash wrecked his body to the point where they didnt think he'd walk again. He didnt but he was hours from doing it. I wouldnt be here if he had.

    I've never told anyone that before. Thats how much I mean the following:

    Suicide is a selfish nasty uncaring way to crawl out from this life. It doesnt hurt you, it hurts everyone else around you and hurts everything you and your offspring will ever do. Please please see someone.

    Decide right now to do something for the people who love you and get help. You and they deserve more.

    DeV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    '
    DeVore wrote:
    I wouldnt be here today....

    My father wanted to commit suicide after a car crash wrecked his body to the point where they didnt think he'd walk again. He didnt but he was hours from doing it. I wouldnt be here if he had.

    I've never told anyone that before. Thats how much I mean the following:

    Suicide is a selfish nasty uncaring way to crawl out from this life. It doesnt hurt you, it hurts everyone else around you and hurts everything you and your offspring will ever do. Please please see someone.

    Decide right now to do something for the people who love you and get help. You and they deserve more.

    DeV.

    I have a friend that would be alive today if he had. Imagine how bad your family would feel if you did something silly and never tried to get help.'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    'things are getting worse and worse for me...
    I lost the person i loved more than anybody else in my life so keep on being on this earth wouldn't have any sense for me.
    My family will get over it, i am confident and my friends...well...would they care?My bf or better my ex bf would be the one who will care less.
    this world is for strong people and i am not.
    I have made up my mind..
    hope my family wont hate me.
    cheers'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,568 ✭✭✭DublinWriter


    hope my family wont hate me.
    They won't, but if you do this act you will cause many people for many years to suffer much worse than you are saying you are suffering now.

    Suicide is the ultimate act of selfishness and betrayal on those who laboured and pained so hard to bring you into this world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,219 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Suicide is the ultimate act of selfishness and betrayal on those who laboured and pained so hard to bring you into this world.
    QFT
    Things will get better in a week, month or year and you owe it to your family to wait it out and stay as strong as you can, for their sake.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,661 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    OP nobody gets over suicide. Dont bring shame to your family.

    Depression is an awful thing, but you're not the first person and definitely wont be the last person who goes through it. THere are plenty of people who have gone thru what you are going thru.

    Its hard to talk to people, but the samaritans can help. Its anonymous, you speak to them for free in confidence over the phone. Why write yourself off if you havent tried to do something to make it better. I dont believe for a second you were always this depressed. If thats the case, there is nothing to stop you feeling like that ever again.

    over 10 years i was diagnosed with a quality of life crippling condition that's incurable. I didnt think id see my 18th birthday, and then my 21st. Im now almost 30 and i want to live forever. I didnt always. But i had to start somewhere putting it all back together and it took babysteps.

    You're not alone. And you dont need to be.

    http://www.samaritans.org/
    http://www.nosp.ie/html/help.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,012 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    'things are getting worse and worse for me...
    I lost the person i loved more than anybody else in my life so keep on being on this earth wouldn't have any sense for me.
    My family will get over it, i am confident and my friends...well...would they care?My bf or better my ex bf would be the one who will care less.
    this world is for strong people and i am not.
    I have made up my mind..
    hope my family wont hate me.
    cheers'

    www.aware.ie

    1890 303302

    Please call them now. They saved my life once and I was closer than you to doing it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,395 ✭✭✭Marksie


    OP: Please listen to what people are saying here.

    You may not think it but you are wanted and loved.

    I haven't told anyone on boards, but when my depression hit, i felt the same as you. Those around me would have been devastated.

    I went for and got help which aided me in turning a corner.

    I lost somene i loved very much two years ago, suddenly, senslessly and that combined with other horrendous things that were going on piled on the pressure.

    But my mum said that the only thing that got her through it was that i was still there... something that wouldn't have happened if i had taked the alternative route.

    With the help of a doctor i got through it.

    Stronger and wiser.

    You can too. Don't give up on yourself, or those you love.. and who love you. It will devastate them.

    This is temporary, truly.

    Its ok to not be strong... there are soo many waiting to help you and support you, take those first steps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Tea drinker


    'I lost the person i loved more than anybody else in my life so keep on being on this earth wouldn't have any sense for me.

    You don't have to be "strong type" There is plenty of room in the world for sensitive people too. You just have to be a little bit strong for now, to turn around and face your future... if you can be brave you have it all ahead of you. You are capable of love, and will love again I am sure.
    I'm sure the one you lost is looking down on you wishing you a long, happy healty life.
    Kind regards,
    Martin


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 668 ✭✭✭karen3212


    Hi OP,

    i hope you are managing to talk to someone.

    You say ''it doesn't make sense for me to be on this earth'', that is because you are feeling so low now.

    You will not get a second chance to be here, you cannot try suicide and turn back if you do not like it.

    There is only one of you in this world, please give yourself a chance.

    I hope you can come back to us, if you can, and I hope you can get some help.

    Get Help


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭estar


    hi there

    can i just say that i have had experience in this area.

    what you are feeling now is contrary to everything that
    you are biologially programmed to feel. normally the
    body and mind are programmed to survive, not to want to die

    the reason I am telling you this, is that you need to see a
    doctor because you need medical treatment, not just
    counselling

    by the time someone is so down they are suicidal, they
    need to see a doctor. then you can move onto counselling
    when you are in a more receptive frame of mind, if you
    want to.

    been there, done that, got better.

    you will get better if you listen to me and professionals
    in the area of mental health.

    contact AWARE - they will put you in touch with an experienced
    practitioner in your area.

    you need support, you need professional guidance. there is nothing
    wrong with having mental health problems.

    1 in 4 people in Ireland have had incidences of mental health
    issues.

    I am one of them. There is no stigma, there is no shame.

    Most of the many highly functioning people I know, seriously
    successful people (as I am) have had some issues.

    dont let misguided pride or misguided need to protect others
    stop you from seeking the guidance you need

    you could be feeling 100% better in yourself and on the road
    to recovery in as little as 3-4 weeks.

    well done on posting here, keep talking to people about how you
    are feeling.


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