Where to buy a 1.4 brand new golf

drdre

Hi guys
Need some help as my sister is looking for a 1.4 5dr sportline golf. Cn you tell me whats the discount she should get off a list price.Also she is looking for it quick so will be looking for garages with stock as she cant wait to order it.

Can you guys tell me what discount you have got?
Who is the cheapest golf dealer in ireland

She wouldnt mind buying off someone outside of dublin but the price has to be right

Hope to get some feedback and if somone works in vw sales drop me a pm

Finally i was going to ask what discount should be on a demo 1.4

flanzer

Definitely not in Dublin anyway! I was trading in a 98 Mk4 2 years ago and Michael Moore down in Portarlington gave me 2 grand more on the trade in than any dealer in Dublin. He also threw in spot lights on the car which is about €200 extra, I do believe.

Country dealers tend to have less overheads than their Dublin counterparts so can decrease their profit margins. I'd say ring some of the country dealers.

EDIT: I had also tried a few dealers in Cork, Galway and Donegal (furthest counties from Dublin) and none of the could beat Micheal Moores

drdre

flanzer wrote:

Definitely not in Dublin anyway! I was trading in a 98 Mk4 2 years ago and Michael Moore down in Portarlington gave me 2 grand more on the trade in than any dealer in Dublin. He also threw in spot lights on the car which is about €200 extra, I do believe.

Country dealers tend to have less overheads than their Dublin counterparts so can decrease their profit margins. I'd say ring some of the country dealers.

Thanks i will tell her to check out micheal moore.
Has anyone dealt with sheehy motors? What are they like.

colm_mcm

they're pretty expensive. try Al Hayes in Portumna, they give large discounts.

drdre

colm_mcm wrote:

they're pretty expensive. try Al Hayes in Portumna, they give large discounts.

Do they just give it or will she have to bargain with garages.As they just start there trick like oh theres really low margins in cars like the golf blah blah blah

Spit62500

I was quoted 2K off a new Sportline 1.4 5 door over the phone by Ballsbridge Motors about 6 weeks ago without trying too hard - I was checking colour availability. From what I remember, there was a choice of silver and blue at the time. I was enquiring on behalf of a work colleague who's convinced that a man's voice will get better results from salesmen :rolleyes: .

drdre

Spit62500 wrote:

I was quoted 2K off a new Sportline 1.4 5 door over the phone by Ballsbridge Motors about 6 weeks ago without trying too hard - I was checking colour availability. From what I remember, there was a choice of silver and blue at the time. I was enquiring on behalf of a work colleague who's convinced that a man's voice will get better results from salesmen :rolleyes: .

By any chance do you know the name of the guy you were talking to? 2k sounds good off a 22k car

colm_mcm

aren't they updating the Golf soon?

drdre

colm_mcm wrote:

aren't they updating the Golf soon?

Thats a good question, i read that somewhere butim not sure.

Does anyone have any updates

colm_mcm

drdre

colm_mcm wrote:

Is there any more information on when its coming out here.She needs a car soon as someone hit the back of her car and insurance are paying for her old car.

boomboombazza

when you go to sell it the D reg gets a better resale value.alot of dublin people will not drive a mayo reg for example.snobby i know!

colm_mcm

drdre wrote:

Is there any more information on when its coming out here.She needs a car soon as someone hit the back of her car and insurance are paying for her old car.

Is she certain she wants a Golf?

drdre

boomboombazza wrote:

when you go to sell it the D reg gets a better resale value.alot of dublin people will not drive a mayo reg for example.snobby i know!

Yeah we will in dublin so she will have a D reg, thanks

drdre

colm_mcm wrote:

Is she certain she wants a Golf?

Yes she wants a golf, i had a 1.4 before and was really happy with it.So she wants the same its really realiable and for 20k is really smooth drive
She likes the shape and wants to keep it for 2-3 years.Resale is good so she wont loose too much.Well i lost nothing after driving it for a year as it looked great

Bluetonic

colm_mcm wrote:

aren't they updating the Golf soon?

As I keep saying on boards.ie nothing is confirmed yet. Even if a new model is out in 12 months a right hand drive won't be out until the following 12 months - such is the way VW operate. Also VW are rumored to be reducing the build quality to bring it inline price wise with it's competitors. The independent rear suspension is also rumored to be going. It's been no secret that the latest Golf costs a damn fortune to build.

Anan1

Bluetonic wrote:

Also VW are rumored to be reducing the build quality...

Again??

colm_mcm

Bluetonic wrote:

Even if a new model is out in 12 months a right hand drive won't be out until the following 12 months - such is the way VW operate.

WHat other mainstream models have had a 12 month delay before?

Bluetonic

Anan1 wrote:

Again??

Not sure exactly what your looking for lad?

colm_mcm wrote:

WHat other mainstream models have had a 12 month delay before?

I wasn't saying there'd be a 12 month delay, I was talking about the 12 months which follow the left hand drive release. Maybe I should have added a 'during' in there!

Mk5 left hand drive available November 2003.
Mk5 right hand drive available July/August 2004.

maidhc

Bluetonic wrote:

As I keep saying on boards.ie nothing is confirmed yet. Even if a new model is out in 12 months a right hand drive won't be out until the following 12 months - such is the way VW operate. Also VW are rumored to be reducing the build quality to bring it inline price wise with it's competitors. The independent rear suspension is also rumored to be going. It's been no secret that the latest Golf costs a damn fortune to build.

They will probably simplify the shell and reduce the amount of fabrication and welding.

As for getting rid of the independent rear suspension, ford seem to be able to turn a profit on the focus, and also, unlike VW, actually developed the system themselves. They might be like toyota with the auris and make half decent handling an "optional extra".

colm_mcm

nobody's gone for the "optional extra" handling model on the Auris (it's not even on Toyota's website) Wouldn't mind a drive in it at some stage, probably have to go to the UK.

drdre

So lets get back to the point.
Looking for a 2007, black ,5dr, sportsline, wheres the best and cheapest place anywhere in ireland. Have been quoted approx 24k list and 2k discount so asking price is just above 22k.Still abit steep in my opinion.

Bluetonic

Are there any extras aside from the book price to go on it? Metallic paint (500 euro).... etc..?

Spit62500

drdre wrote:

By any chance do you know the name of the guy you were talking to? 2k sounds good off a 22k car

I've no idea - I had a quick look at their website for a staff listing but there's none there....

My sister traded her '05 Sportline for the same again earlier this year and reckons that the new one is far better than her old one in terms of 'feel' - I've no idea if there's been much tweaking but she's not the type to have imagined it. Then again, her old one could have been a lemon. The standard air con is a big plus on the '07.

daveg

colm_mcm wrote:

they're pretty expensive. try Al Hayes in Portumna, they give large discounts.

I had loads of trouble buying a car from them a few years ago. Would not buy a spark plug there now.

bazz26

Newcastle West Motors in Limerick are supposed to be decent enough. Also try Pierse Motors in Tipperary.

Regarding the next Golf, the MkVI is not due for a bit yet but the MkV is getting a small facelift in the mean time. It is getting the same front bumper as the Jetta and a chrome grill similar to the R32. They are also lauching an estate version. Not sure on dates though but it is pretty soon.

drdre

bazz26 wrote:

Newcastle West Motors in Limerick are supposed to be decent enough. Also try Pierse Motors in Tipperary.

Regarding the next Golf, the MkVI is not due for a bit yet but the MkV is getting a small facelift in the mean time. It is getting the same front bumper as the Jetta and a chrome grill similar to the R32. They are also lauching an estate version. Not sure on dates though but it is pretty soon.

Thanks but does anyone know when that facelift is coming out as that would be worth waiting for.Its a nice front

colm_mcm

same as the Jetta if I'm not mistaken

mad m

Have bought from M.Moore Portarlington since 98 and always Golf's. He always had one when in Dublin there was 6months waiting list. Last time I went down to him one of his salesmen collected me at the train station and drove me to his car dealership.,suppose wouldn't you if there was a customer coming down with 22k in his arse pocket....

The longest I had to wait for a car from M.Moore was 3weeks. Make sure he has the tank filled to brim when collecting car. I have always sold my car private because always got a better deal with cash than a trade in.

drdre

mad m wrote:

Have bought from M.Moore Portarlington since 98 and always Golf's. He always had one when in Dublin there was 6months waiting list. Last time I went down to him one of his salesmen collected me at the train station and drove me to his car dealership.,suppose wouldn't you if there was a customer coming down with 22k in his arse pocket....

The longest I had to wait for a car from M.Moore was 3weeks. Make sure he has the tank filled to brim when collecting car. I have always sold my car private because always got a better deal with cash than a trade in.

Yeah i got a golf from him before but didnt find him the cheapest, my uncle has bought 4-5 mercs from him but now is a customer of sheehy motors as he had a little fight with the sales guy in micheal moore

maidhc

drdre wrote:

Yeah i got a golf from him before but didnt find him the cheapest, my uncle has bought 4-5 mercs from him but now is a customer of sheehy motors as he had a little fight with the sales guy in micheal moore

Why don't you shop around? When you will get the best price depends on lots of factors, and where one person may do well another may not. Take a few saturdays to visit a few dealerships.

drdre

maidhc wrote:

Why don't you shop around? When you will get the best price depends on lots of factors, and where one person may do well another may not. Take a few saturdays to visit a few dealerships.

I will have to do that but i wanted to get some opinions from the members here that have had some experience with VW dealers and some have got some good deals.Also some people here work in the trade that can give me some good opinions.Thanks

pburns

Al Hayes, Portumna. I don't have a high opinion of Michael Moores...

maidhc

drdre wrote:

I will have to do that but i wanted to get some opinions from the members here that have had some experience with VW dealers and some have got some good deals.Also some people here work in the trade that can give me some good opinions.Thanks

Fair enough. When we bought a Passat last year Blackwater Motors in Fermoy were several k cheaper than Newmarket Motors or (unsurprisingly) than Turners Cross.

drdre

maidhc wrote:

Fair enough. When we bought a Passat last year Blackwater Motors in Fermoy were several k cheaper than Newmarket Motors or (unsurprisingly) than Turners Cross.

Thanks will check them out.

maidhc

drdre wrote:

Thanks will check them out.

You really need to call to these places in person. You won't do much over the phone.

drdre

maidhc wrote:

You really need to call to these places in person. You won't do much over the phone.

Well then close to dublin will be alright.I aint going to cork

Anan1

Bluetonic wrote:

Not sure exactly what your looking for lad?

What on earth is this supposed to mean? In case you misunderstood my post, I was pointing out that VW have already 'reduced the build quality' of the MK5 Golf compared to the Mk4. And that of the Mk3 compared to the Mk2, if it comes to it. Are you with me now, 'lad'?;)

Bluetonic

Cheer me auld flower.

Have you now.

Anan1

Bluetonic wrote:

Cheer me auld flower.

Have you now.

Out of interest, what did you think I meant?

unkel

Anan1 wrote:

I was pointing out that VW have already 'reduced the build quality' of the MK5 Golf compared to the Mk4

I might be completely wrong here, but over the last few years I got the impression that the MK5 was miles (or should I say kilometers ) ahead of the MK4 in every respect, including built quality. In the case of the GTI I'd go as far as to say it's the first good one since the MK2 (didn't you own one of them?)

I also got the impression that the production costs of the MK5 are too high and that the MK6 will be built cheaper. I'm speculating now, but I'll guess the MK6 won't be a good car, where the MK5 clearly is a good car

colm_mcm

If VW are a bit more clever about how they build the Mk6 Golf, it could be easier to produce and less likely to go wrong. as long as they spend all their time on the dash plastics and the rear suspension, then the motoring press won't notice anything's amiss

Anan1

unkel wrote:

I might be completely wrong here, but over the last few years I got the impression that the MK5 was miles (or should I say kilometers ) ahead of the MK4 in every respect, including built quality. In the case of the GTI I'd go as far as to say it's the first good one since the MK2 (didn't you own one of them?)(

I've only driven the Mk5 briefly, whereas i've driven a fair few Mk4s. I would have said that the Mk5, better car though it surely is, feels a lot less well put-together than the Mk4. The same holds true of the new Passat - I sat in one of those a while back and was quite shocked at how cheap the interior feels compared to its predecessor. That's only my own impression, but I have to say it's quite a marked one.:) You're right, I did have a Mk2 GTI 16v. Great car though it was, I could never really forgive it for not being a Peugeot 205GTI 1.9. I guess build quality was never that high on my wish list..

Zagorkagirl

Drdre,

To answer your original question - you should phone or call into at least a dozen dealers and ask what discount they offer. If they offer less than 10% off the list price you are being ripped off! 10% is the absolute minimum - some dealers will give upto 15%.

Za.

drdre

Zagorkagirl wrote:

Drdre,

To answer your original question - you should phone or call into at least a dozen dealers and ask what discount they offer. If they offer less than 10% off the list price you are being ripped off! 10% is the absolute minimum - some dealers will give upto 15%.

Za.

Thanks for the info.She says she wont order a new car till 2008 so hope to get a good deal then

crosstownk

Don't forget the after sales aspect when it comes to buying a VW. Best in the country in this regard in Newcastle West Autos. Worst is Frank Hogans (Western are almost as bad). Steer clear of all MSL set ups. Al Hayes, yeah, cheap, but useless for repairs. Newmarket will swing a deal but Blackwater have a better aftersales set up. In Dublin, I'd try Fosters or maybe give Sheehys in Naas a go.

drdre

crosstownk wrote:

Don't forget the after sales aspect when it comes to buying a VW. Best in the country in this regard in Newcastle West Autos. Worst is Frank Hogans (Western are almost as bad). Steer clear of all MSL set ups. Al Hayes, yeah, cheap, but useless for repairs. Newmarket will swing a deal but Blackwater have a better aftersales set up. In Dublin, I'd try Fosters or maybe give Sheehys in Naas a go.

Very good info.thanks.I have heard about msl.they are crap as i have dealt with them before.Also sheehy and foster are supposed to be good.I have had great friendly experience from the service/parts crowd in fosters.they are really helpful

leahcim

I've had two MK IVs and had a MK V for the last three years. The build quality of the MKV is inferior to MKIV but the handeling is much better.

The independent rear suspension makes the car feel alot more stable when cornering. I will be switching from VW to ford if they degrade the handeling on the MKVI.

I have always called to a number of dealers when upgrading my car. The prices quoted were usually fairly consistant give or take 100 euros. I have always bought the base line spec. There is probably more room for bargaining when getting extras included.

R.O.R

Zagorkagirl wrote:

Drdre,

To answer your original question - you should phone or call into at least a dozen dealers and ask what discount they offer. If they offer less than 10% off the list price you are being ripped off! 10% is the absolute minimum - some dealers will give upto 15%.

Za.

Holy CR*P! Who the hell are you buying VW's off Zagokagirl?

Not since the heady days of the Mk4 Golf have we seen VW discounts anywhere close to 10% - most dealers don't have 10% margin to play with yet alone 15%.

If you can squeeze 5% out of a dealer in a private sale, you'd be doing a great bit of business.