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Full Tilt $1/$2 Deep

  • 25-05-2007 1:59am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭


    villian is loose p/f but i had no recollection of him 3 betting in about 90 minutes on the table so im guessing his range for doing so is very small.splashes around in lots of pots and has been caught bluffing a few times,once for a substantial pot.he's playing deep after stacking a guy on an Axxx board with AJ vs AT for a 230bb pot so he's not afraid to get his chips in.

    im opening lots of pots in position and have tangled with villian a few times but we havent played any big pots.im sure he knows my range for opening on the button is fairly wide.

    effective stacks $550.


    folds to me on the button i make it $7 with 89o.

    villian calls in the sb,bb folds.(pot $16)

    flop: 89T with 2 diamonds.villian checks,i bet $12,villian c/raises to $45,i call???(pot $106)

    turn: offsuit 3.villian bets $85.


    i was pretty stumped here.villian can be semi-bluffing a boat load of hands and is more than capable of firing with air.if he has a set/straight/higher 2 pair here were obviously toast which is pretty sick considering how deep we are.


    is this a fold just because were so deep?

    if we play for stacks,do we just call/call blank river?

    can we ever call here with the intention of folding a blank river?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    if he is capable of making moves i would probably call the turn with the intention of folding a blank river.

    if he's capable of c/r flop,betting turn and pushing river two and a half buyins deep then more power to him,but i wouldn't say there's many at 1/2 who are,so i'm happy enough calling here and folding the river if it comes to it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,141 ✭✭✭ocallagh


    he has priced himself out of any draws (if you call) and will only call a raise of 250 or so when we are behind, so raising on the turn is not an option.

    I don't think we can fold given the villains history.

    So, by process of elimination I think we have to call.

    I have a feeling this villain might just fire a 3rd barrell. I might be enough of a fish to check/call him on the river, contrary to Robins advice. I think it's close though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    ocallagh wrote:
    I have a feeling this villain might just fire a 3rd barrell. I might be enough of a fish to check/call him on the river, contrary to Robins advice. I think it's close though.

    we're in position here...if we were oop and check calling i might consider looking him up on the river,the fact that he's out of position rules out calling the river for me though,since its a lot harder for him to fire three barrells out of position cause he's much less information.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    I think folding turn is fine. If i was calling turn it would be with the intention of taking robins suggested line on the river...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭busted flush


    ;) its obviously a very dangerous flop! however considering the players action with the aj v a10, a few hands previous i be inclined to reraise him on his turn bet as he is likley to make this play with a top pair flush draw hand, i belive your ahead at this stage and id make him pay and pay dearly for the one remaining card . it might not be the cautious thing to do here but i think it is the most profitable play! what was the end result btw?
    kind regards
    bf


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    I'd call the turn and fold the River to a substantial bet or check behind. He could have loads of draws, 1 pair+draw hands, etc. as well as made hands here. It's unlikely he'll bluff the River so I would be happy I'm beaten if he bets near enough to pot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭Marq


    yeah I think calling turn and folding river to a bet is good. if he bets the river we beat nothing but a bluff, and he should be bluffing this river close to never.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    Call and hope he checks a blank river. How often do you think he will bet the river with 1 pair or worse if he doesn't make his hand? Has he checked the river after playing aggressive OOP that you can remember?


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