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How will my vote be counted if...

  • 23-05-2007 2:43pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭


    ...I decide to exercise my right not to vote?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,081 ✭✭✭✭chopperbyrne


    It won't be counted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Tzetze


    Thanks for the clarification.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    If you're not gonna vote, if you can, go down and spoil your vote.

    1) It stops someone else using your vote.

    2) It's a better form of protest than just not voting (if that is your intention).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    Zebra3 wrote:
    1) It stops someone else using your vote.
    How can someone else use his/her vote?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,809 ✭✭✭edanto


    Hey it's up to you. If you decide not to vote, no-one's going to force you.

    What are you saying though, that you disagree with all the parties? Or that politics doesn't affect you?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 415 ✭✭Gobán Saor


    Tzetze wrote:
    ...I decide to exercise my right not to vote?
    Why on earth would you do that? While I can understand that no candidate might appeal to you, surely you can't have precisely the same level of dislike for all of them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    axer wrote:
    How can someone else use his/her vote?

    Loads of ways.

    All illegal of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭3greenrizla's


    IMHO if you give up your right to vote, you also give up your right to give out about anything the government does in the next 4 years.


    & you shouldnt be allowed to give up your right to vote, it is your civic duty.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Of course someone has the right to not vote. And of course people have the right to tell that person to take a hike next time they moan about the roads, jobs, the health system, taxes etc. etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Tzetze


    To answer the questions as to why I won't be voting. Call it laziness if you will, but I'm still registered to vote at my parent's address in the East of the country. I'm now living in Galway, and there's no way I can make it back East tomorrow to vote. So, my vote will be wasted.

    It's nothing to do with disliking all parties equally.


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Voting is compulsory in a number of countries, with assorted penalties for failure to comply. In Australia it appears to be a small fine that's not always enforced, but it would be interesting to see what sort of uproar there would be if any of the following measures were taken here:
    Wikipedia wrote:
    Belgian voters who repeatedly fail to vote in elections may be subject to disenfranchising. Goods and services provided by public offices may be denied to those failing to vote in Peru and Greece. If a Bolivian voter fails to participate in an election, the citizen may be denied withdrawal of their salary from the bank for three months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    Zebra3 wrote:
    Loads of ways.

    All illegal of course.
    I can't imagine that actually happening though - its hardly a reason why someone should use their vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,441 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    If they are all so bad (can't really disagree) did you consider running yourself ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Tzetze


    jhegarty wrote:
    If they are all so bad (can't really disagree) did you consider running yourself ?

    That has nothing to do with my not voting, as I've already explained above.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭3greenrizla's


    Tzetze wrote:
    To answer the questions as to why I won't be voting. Call it laziness if you will, but I'm still registered to vote at my parent's address in the East of the country. I'm now living in Galway, and there's no way I can make it back East tomorrow to vote. So, my vote will be wasted.

    It's nothing to do with disliking all parties equally.

    why did you not register in Galway, it is not a hard thing to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,201 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    axer wrote:
    I can't imagine that actually happening though...


    It can and it does.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2000/0519/personation.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,577 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    zaph wrote:
    Voting is compulsory in a number of countries, with assorted penalties for failure to comply. In Australia it appears to be a small fine that's not always enforced, but it would be interesting to see what sort of uproar there would be if any of the following measures were taken here:
    I think the trick isn't to fine people, but to pay them for voting (with their own money).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,161 ✭✭✭SeanW


    I disagree, compulsory voting or voting-incentives is not the solution.

    If people aren't voting, it's most likely because they think politcs are irrelevant to them or that it doesn't make a difference who gets in. If that impression is there, it's the politicians fault, not the publics.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭Zambia


    Vote Early vote often


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,929 ✭✭✭Raiser


    Tzetze wrote:
    How will my vote be counted if...I decide to exercise my right not to vote?
    Tzetze wrote:
    To answer the questions as to why I won't be voting. Call it laziness if you will, but I'm still registered to vote at my parent's address in the East of the country. I'm now living in Galway, and there's no way I can make it back East tomorrow to vote. So, my vote will be wasted.

    It's nothing to do with disliking all parties equally.

    Democracys main failing is the possibility that for every informed, calculated and sensible vote there might just possibly be an idiotic, nonsensical vote which carries the same weight and thus negates it.

    Thankfully voter apathy serves to tip the democratic scales in the thinking mans favour :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,454 ✭✭✭cast_iron


    I don't think people should be forced to vote if they don't think any candidates are any use or disagree with the voting system.

    But I do think people should be made go to the polling booth and state their preference.

    The options could be:
    1. List of candidates;
    2. None of the above;
    3. I disagree wth the voting system.

    We would get good feedback on how many people are just too lazy, how many just don't like the politicians and how many disagree with the whole setup.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Dampsquid


    Tzetze wrote:
    Thanks for the clarification.

    You needed a clarification?????


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