planning permission, certificate of compliance

Jim79

hi,

I am led to believe that it is expensive to get a certificate of compliance for planning permission.

Can someone advise me as to how much it costs?
and if there is a cheaper way of getting ithe certificate of compliance?

thanks, jim

smashey

What did you get permission for? If you had an Architect or Engineer, they will be able to provide it. Whatever they charge, they charge.

BAZM8

we used to charge €400 + VAT..... but don't do them anymore because of lack of time

Jim79

the guy who drew up the plans said he does not do it anymore. My Aunt was speaking to an Engineer who said it would cost thousands (plural) so i assumed at least 2000 just to issue a certificate.

i could be well wide of the mark of course. its time to phone around.

smashey

Seems a bit expensive to me. Ask/phone around.

2 stroke

Its a few years ago but I didn't pay anything extra for mine, it was covered by architects fee, well I didn't pay him until he produced it. It is very important to get your certificate of compliance as you will need it if you are selling house. and it will be costly if for any reason you have to go to a different architect.

2 stroke

Jim, did the engineer mean it could cost thousands to bring the property upto compliance?

When should one send in a certificate of compliance? we have moved in but not yet completed the house.

What's the worse that could happen if you don't send one in (we never intend to sell the house).

muffler

Deleted User wrote:

When should one send in a certificate of compliance? we have moved in but not yet completed the house.

What's the worse that could happen if you don't send one in (we never intend to sell the house).

Your cert of compliance should be given to your solicitor who will attach it to the title deeds.

2 stroke

What's the worse that could happen if you don't send one in (we never intend to sell the house)

You could die without getting it, leaving a problem for your dependants.( well thats the worst I can think of.)

smashey

2 stroke wrote:

You could die without getting it, leaving a problem for your dependants.( well thats the worst I can think of.)

Jaysus. Remind me not to go to any of your parties.

sesswhat

2 stroke wrote:

You could die without getting it, leaving a problem for your dependants.( well thats the worst I can think of.)

They can use my life policy to pay for it

Naux

2 stroke wrote:

You could die without getting it, leaving a problem for your dependants.( well thats the worst I can think of.)

Top class pessimisim:D

On a more serious note I thought that the banks(if you have a mortgage on the property) would require a certificate of compliance. If you defaulted and the bank would be left with a non-compliant building that they could not sell easily.

Can anyone clarify who you need the certificate of compliance for and why?

muffler

Naux wrote:

Can anyone clarify who you need the certificate of compliance for and why?

See post #9

Naux

muffler wrote:

See post #9

Hi Muffler, I saw that post alright. Why do the solicitors require it though??What happens if you don't have one?

Naux

smashey

Try selling the house without it.

muffler

Naux wrote:

Hi Muffler, I saw that post alright. Why do the solicitors require it though??What happens if you don't have one?

Naux

If there's a mortgage involved the cert is needed to secure the mortgage agreement and subsequent payments otherwise the mortgage could be rescinded. The same as you have to have mortgage protection in place. The solicitor needs to certify clean title to the property and cant do this without the cert.

If there's no mortgage on the property then its purely a matter for yourself but you will be looking at bother if you ever wanted to mortgage or sell the property at a later date.

As I said the cert of compliance is attached to the title deeds and passes on to the next owner or if a mortgage is taken out evidence of the cert being with the deeds must be given by the solicitor to the lending agency

Hope this clarifies the matter

galwaytt

As said, if you're not involved with banks, then it's not a major issue. This presupposes you didn't build a 3-storey on a site with pp for a chalet..........it would be nice to close the circle, though, if you can.

It's not a requirement to file it with the deeds, either. 20 yrs down the road, selling it, you may well find need a current one, to allow for that 8-storey student flat you tacked on in 2011 over a fine w/end............

case in point: in the late '60's early '70's a lot of houses were built with flat roof garages. Total nightmare in the mid 80's, when most had rotted away, and people had builders in putting on tiles, etc. Likewise a large no were converted in urban areas near Uni's etc......it was the done thing, then........ but, selling those houses in the nineties/naughties required compliance cert, and lo-and-behold........but a lot of the 'garages' needed retention. Not a big issue, but the point being that a cert issued when the house was new woudln't have been worth anything.........

Ditto houses built without chimneys.......(Corrib Park, Galway)

muffler

galwaytt wrote:

It's not a requirement to file it with the deeds, either.

Yes it is if the property is mortgaged

And solicitors will not register title without a cert of compliance even without a mortgage on the property

galwaytt

galwaytt wrote:

As said, if you're not involved with banks, then it's not a major issue. This presupposes you didn't build a 3-storey on a site with pp for a chalet..........it would be nice to close the circle, though, if you can.

That's what I expected, but just needed to clarify, thanks.

I do have a small mortgage and needed a cert (for the bank) from an engineer to say that the part built house was complient for one stage payment, will need another when we want the final payment, I suppose I shall just cc that the the local council.

I was thinking along the UK lines where you need a cert before you are allowed to occupy the property.

muffler

Deleted User wrote:

needed a cert (for the bank) from an engineer to say that the part built house was complient for one stage payment, will need another when we want the final payment, I suppose I shall just cc that the the local council.

What your engineer is giving you is basically a stage payment cert which on occasions makes reference to the works being in compliance with PP and bldg. regs insofar as same has been completed.

Upon the final completion you will get a statutory certificate of compliance with planning permission and building regulations which goes to your solicitor. The local council dont need a copy.

smashey

Jim79 banned for one week for ignoring the advice given here and starting an identical thread.