Paying for parking at RDS??!

oconnoao

hmm was anyone else annoyed by the fact that trinity students are being made pay €5 to park in the RDS, especially seeing as UCD students were allowed to park freely?:mad:

Odd. Did you not just say you're from UCD when they said that?

Moorsy

oconnoao wrote:

hmm was anyone else annoyed by the fact that trinity students are being made pay €5 to park in the RDS, especially seeing as UCD students were allowed to park freely?:mad:

Why didn't you get the bus or cycle or walk. If you have enough money, while in college, to go buy a car, petrol and insurance I'm sure you must have an extra fiver floating around which won't hurt your pocket that much. Will it?
I am not willing, under any circumstances, for part of my registration fee, or government contribution to tertiary education to go towards subsidising people who want to bring a car to an exam. Pay for it yourself or better still pick up 5 classmates in the car on the way and charge them a euro each and spread the cost, I'm sure they would be delighted by the idea.

Gileadi

Do they check if you have a student card for ucd or anything?

d4gurl

oconnoao wrote:

hmm was anyone else annoyed by the fact that trinity students are being made pay €5 to park in the RDS, especially seeing as UCD students were allowed to park freely?:mad:

It is annoying! Today we were asked for id, yesterday we just said we were ucd students. The man made us pay saying something along the lines "ask bertie"

Its a reasonable complaint so there is no need to attack op (to moorsy) and before I get attacked I live wicklow so public transport is crap. Nobody likes to fork out five euro when you know other people are getting it for free...thats the point :rolleyes:

d4gurl

d4gurl wrote:

It is annoying! Today we were asked for id, yesterday we just said we were ucd students. The man made us pay saying something along the lines "ask bertie"

I hear he's good at organising whip arounds.

Seriously though, pop an e-mail to Rob at education@tcdsu.org. The UCDSU Education Officer got it sorted awhile back so I'm sure that it'll just require someone to shout at them and that Rob would be willing to help. It's a bit silly since (as Moorsy alleged, in a round-a-bout way) that money is already being pumped through the Reg. Fee into the payment of facilities in the RDS yet we've to pay on top...

(before I go any further, let's just ignore the example of the sports centre)

Danger Bob

While UCDSU will surely take plenty of credit for this one , it's actually a deal that UCD have had with students for years. Basically, the college pays the RDS a contribution for car parking for their students. I don't even think the SU were involved. (This is from talking to their SU President about it the other day.)

Maybe there was an attempt to change it and their Education Officer stopped that but it's definitely not a new initiative.

I've to have a few big exam-related meetings around college in the coming weeks so will include that. However, I will point out that college tend not to be particularly supportive of students who drive, in case you hadn't noticed, so I'll make no guarantees. I'll also see how much UCD pay for this privilege. But if it's a choice between college subsidising parking and them funding better educational conditions somewhere else, I know what I'll have to side with.

Moorsy

d4gurl wrote:

Its a reasonable complaint so there is no need to attack op (to moorsy) and before I get attacked I live wicklow so public transport is crap. Nobody likes to fork out five euro when you know other people are getting it for free...thats the point :rolleyes:

Nice nickname for somebody living in Wicklow…here's a link to how the Dublin Postal Codes are set out - http://www.dublintourist.com/maps/dublin_postal_codes.shtml - If you can't find Wicklow its because it isn't in Dublin or D4, but coincidently the RDS is!

Fair enough if you have to drive from Wicklow every day up to college, or the RDS for exams, but if your a twenty-something-college student and your parents are able to afford to buy you a car, insurance and petrol then I'm sure they would be more than willing to fork out another 5 euro, and loike maybe even a tenner for a pint in Kiely's, which is also beside the RDS in D4, D4GURL.

If the College can work something out so that its free grand but not at my expense! Fair play to Rob (aka Danger Bob) for putting education and in my opinion issues, which may be facilitated by the majority of students, first.

P.S. - People who don’t come under my criticisms are students who can’t get public transport. Seriously though they should look into car pooling and reducing the cost!

xeduCat

Not to mention that free parking is not available to students for the rest of the academic year - I can't fathom how it should suddenly become an expected service at exam time. If TCD sold parking passes for the year, or offered free or discounted parking to students, then there would be a case for something to be done for the RDS. However, if a student is already commuting from Wicklow every day (as I did for a year - yuck) and must drive, then surely they pay for parking each other day. I don't think it's reasonable to expect free parking at exams in that case, whether UCD provides it or not.

(With an exception for students with disabilities, etc who require door to door transport or specially adapted vehicles, of course).

King.Penguin

Moorsy wrote:

Nice nickname for somebody living in Wicklow…here's a link to how the Dublin Postal Codes are set out - http://www.dublintourist.com/maps/dublin_postal_codes.shtml - If you can't find Wicklow its because it isn't in Dublin or D4, but coincidently the RDS is!

Fair enough if you have to drive from Wicklow every day up to college, or the RDS for exams, but if your a twenty-something-college student and your parents are able to afford to buy you a car, insurance and petrol then I'm sure they would be more than willing to fork out another 5 euro, and loike maybe even a tenner for a pint in Kiely's, which is also beside the RDS in D4, D4GURL.

If the College can work something out so that its free grand but not at my expense! Fair play to Rob (aka Danger Bob) for putting education and in my opinion issues, which may be facilitated by the majority of students, first.

P.S. - People who don’t come under my criticisms are students who can’t get public transport. Seriously though they should look into car pooling and reducing the cost!

what are you being a **** for?

C.D.

Moorsy wrote:

Nice nickname for somebody living in Wicklow…here's a link to how the Dublin Postal Codes are set out - http://www.dublintourist.com/maps/dublin_postal_codes.shtml - If you can't find Wicklow its because it isn't in Dublin or D4, but coincidently the RDS is!

but if your a twenty-something-college student and your parents are able to afford to buy you a car, insurance and petrol then I'm sure they would be more than willing to fork out another 5 euro, and loike maybe even a tenner for a pint in Kiely's, which is also beside the RDS in D4, D4GURL.


P.S. - People who don’t come under my criticisms are students who can’t get public transport. Seriously though they should look into car pooling and reducing the cost!

I'd advise getting off your high horse. For me, it would take 2 buses and a 20 minute walk to get to the RDS, thats over 2 hours of commuting. Driving in takes me 30 minutes maximum. So I can get another 1 and half hours of study in before each exam, that is 12 hours of study over my 8 exams, so driving is first choice.

With regards to my car, I have recently left my job (easter) and had been there for over 2 years- I finance my car and all its aspects myself. As a result, I'm desperately broke and cannot afford to pay parking (I'm starting work asap once the exams are over). So €40 (8 exams) is siginificant to me.

As a result, I have somewhat dishonestly kept my parking stub from the first day and as my exams are all 2-5, I just say I was here this morning and went out for lunch.

Time Magazine

C.D. wrote:

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I appreciate your situation, especially about dropping jobs in the run-up to exams (second year in a row here) but if you can't afford to park you can commute like the rest of us. Fortunately I don't have any exams in the RDS this year, but I done the >1.5hr commute each way like everyone else coming from Kildare in previous years.

I don't see any reason whatsoever for me to subsidise their parking unless they subsidise my rent for living over an hour away from College. In your case I'd gladly lend you the fiver a day if I could, but having it as a formal thing is ludicrous.

JackKelly

Moorsy wrote:

Nice nickname for somebody living in Wicklow…here's a link to how the Dublin Postal Codes are set out - http://www.dublintourist.com/maps/dublin_postal_codes.shtml - If you can't find Wicklow its because it isn't in Dublin or D4, but coincidently the RDS is!

Fair enough if you have to drive from Wicklow every day up to college, or the RDS for exams, but if your a twenty-something-college student and your parents are able to afford to buy you a car, insurance and petrol then I'm sure they would be more than willing to fork out another 5 euro, and loike maybe even a tenner for a pint in Kiely's, which is also beside the RDS in D4, D4GURL.

If the College can work something out so that its free grand but not at my expense! Fair play to Rob (aka Danger Bob) for putting education and in my opinion issues, which may be facilitated by the majority of students, first.

P.S. - People who don’t come under my criticisms are students who can’t get public transport. Seriously though they should look into car pooling and reducing the cost!

who pissed on your Cornflakes? Get a grip

C.D.

Ibid wrote:

I appreciate your situation, especially about dropping jobs in the run-up to exams (second year in a row here) but if you can't afford to park you can commute like the rest of us. Fortunately I don't have any exams in the RDS this year, but I done the >1.5hr commute each way like everyone else coming from Kildare in previous years.

I don't see any reason whatsoever for me to subsidise their parking unless they subsidise my rent for living over an hour away from College. In your case I'd gladly lend you the fiver a day if I could, but having it as a formal thing is ludicrous.

I agree with you in that other students should not have to pay for the (minority) who have to park (despite that it would work out at probably less than a euro per student [registration fee]), my main gripes were:

1) The attitude, arrogance and lack of consideration for the sitauations of other students displayed by a certain poster.

2) The fact I was not notified by anybody (college authorities) that I had to pay for parking. It would be an entirely different issue had I been notified beforehand. As it was, I had to scrape €3.20 in coins out of the car (which he kindly let me away with). Therefore I had not budgeted for an extra €40

PS commuting is a pain isn't it!

d4gurl

Moorsy wrote:

Nice nickname for somebody living in Wicklow…here's a link to how the Dublin Postal Codes are set out - http://www.dublintourist.com/maps/dublin_postal_codes.shtml - If you can't find Wicklow its because it isn't in Dublin or D4, but coincidently the RDS is!

Fair enough if you have to drive from Wicklow every day up to college, or the RDS for exams, but if your a twenty-something-college student and your parents are able to afford to buy you a car, insurance and petrol then I'm sure they would be more than willing to fork out another 5 euro, and loike maybe even a tenner for a pint in Kiely's, which is also beside the RDS in D4, D4GURL.

If the College can work something out so that its free grand but not at my expense! Fair play to Rob (aka Danger Bob) for putting education and in my opinion issues, which may be facilitated by the majority of students, first.

P.S. - People who don’t come under my criticisms are students who can’t get public transport. Seriously though they should look into car pooling and reducing the cost!

I'm in two minds still wheter I should bother posting back a reply to your rant. Seeing as I really don't want to study be prepared for mine.

My screen name for this website should not allow you to presume anything about me. I made that name up years ago when I first came onto boards for a laugh, never did I think I would post here and now I can't be bothered to get a new one so deal with it and refrain from being such a pain.

Also to those of you who gave out to Moorsy thanks! You do not see me slagging his/her screen name. Get over it like!

Back to the issue at hand: I do car pool everyday its great gets five people in and they chip in for petrol etc..! Only had to pay one day, the rest of this week was brilliant said I was in UCD happy days! Did not have to show ID.

Yep commuting is such a pain CD

xeduCat

So where do you normally park, and how much does it cost? I'm still at a loss as to why TCD should provide or seek free parking for students at exams, given that this freebie isn't available for the other 11 months of year?

cianclarke

xeduCat wrote:

So where do you normally park, and how much does it cost? I'm still at a loss as to why TCD should provide or seek free parking for students at exams, given that this freebie isn't available for the other 11 months of year?

I think the issue to hand was more why TCD has to pay, and it's free for UCD. Somebody above mentioned a deal was struck with UCD?
If anybody has seen the carpark, it was completely empty the day I was there.

I was also going to respond to Moorsy's post, however enough already have.
So Moorsy, how's it feel looking like an utter pr*ck?

C.D.

Personally, I don't pay for parking in TCD- I drive up to Sandyford, park at my uncle's house and get the LUAS, which drops me right off at Grafton street. Unfortunately, the LUAS brings me nowhere near the RDS!

Some of you might suggest that I get from Sandyford, but they are few and far between! And drop me nowhere near the RDS either!

I agree with you in that other students should not have to pay for the (minority) who have to park (despite that it would work out at probably less than a euro per student [registration fee]), my main gripes were:

1) The attitude, arrogance and lack of consideration for the sitauations of other students displayed by a certain poster.

2) The fact I was not notified by anybody (college authorities) that I had to pay for parking. It would be an entirely different issue had I been notified beforehand. As it was, I had to scrape €3.20 in coins out of the car (which he kindly let me away with). Therefore I had not budgeted for an extra €40

PS commuting is a pain isn't it!

I see your point but I don't have much sympathy considering that commuting daily isn't even an option for me, given that I live over 3 hours from college. I'd way rather pay the 40 quid to park in the RDS than the 5+ grand a year I borrow so I can live in Dublin (I don't live within commuting distance of any university).You COULD commute on public transport. I know it isn't ideal but the point it, it isn't 'fair' for lots of people. I'm going to have to come down on the train from the North the morning of my exam on the 14th June cos I can't afford to pay for my room in Dublin an extra 2 weeks. Maybe I should ask all TCD students to subsidise me to stay in Dublin (over 200 euro), since it's not my fault that college scheduled an exam 2 weeks after my room contract expires?
Yeah paying 5 euro is a bit annoying but like xeducat said, you manage to make parking arrangements every other day of the year. Believe it or not, some of us have it a lot worse money wise! I don't see why college is responsible for your parking problems when you don't have to drive. I agree with you they should have warned you about the charge, but you knew about it after the first day so you could be more prepared.

Tacitha

If it's just a matter of discussing it with the RDS, that would do no harm. But I suspect that UCD might get the free parking by paying more, not because they asked nicely. And we already spend ridiculous amounts on exams, and as people have pointed out, don't pay student parking on campus / rent / bus tickets, so I don't think there's any case to be made for subsidising parking at the RDS. Maybe the senior lecturer's mass e-mail on exams should mention the rate for parking there, though.

What I think is scandalous is that on-campus and halls accommodation requires the daily payment well before most people's exams end. For halls it makes no sense whatsover, and on campus it seems pretty callous.

I do think there are many other problems with the RDS though. Would it be preferable to have a slightly longer exam period and hold all exams on campus, or is the early finishing date more important to people?

What I think is scandalous is that on-campus and halls examination requires the daily payment well before most people's exams end. For halls it makes no sense whatsover, and on campus it seems pretty callous.

Yes, it's ridiculous and it's basically a scam, no? If you haven't finished exams then you haven't finished the college year and they have no right to charge extra. As I said, this year it's so much money that I'm going to have to go home and come back down for one exam, hardly ideal. They get away with everything. It took them about a year to give me the deposit back when I was in Trinity Hall, and then they deducted loads of money when nothing was damaged/broken. That's for a whole other thread though.

C.D.

Duke Wet Nail wrote:

I see your point but I don't have much sympathy considering that commuting daily isn't even an option for me, given that I live over 3 hours from college. I'd way rather pay the 40 quid to park in the RDS than the 5+ grand a year I borrow so I can live in Dublin (I don't live within commuting distance of any university).You COULD commute on public transport. I know it isn't ideal but the point it, it isn't 'fair' for lots of people. I'm going to have to come down on the train from the North the morning of my exam on the 14th June cos I can't afford to pay for my room in Dublin an extra 2 weeks. Maybe I should ask all TCD students to subsidise me to stay in Dublin (over 200 euro), since it's not my fault that college scheduled an exam 2 weeks after my room contract expires?
Yeah paying 5 euro is a bit annoying but like xeducat said, you manage to make parking arrangements every other day of the year. Believe it or not, some of us have it a lot worse money wise! I don't see why college is responsible for your parking problems when you don't have to drive. I agree with you they should have warned you about the charge, but you knew about it after the first day so you could be more prepared.

Re-read my post, I don't suggest that it should be subsidised, and I have since made arrangements for parking. My main vices were (again)

1) moorsy's posts

2) Nobody told me the fee beforehand.

3) Just general complaining about commuting.

And I live 2 and half hours from the RDS by public transport so it is not that different to you (3 hours). It takes me 2+ (incl driving) to get toTCD, there is no way I could get to TCD without a car (no public transport within walking distance of any kind), I just can't afford to get student accommodation like you for the duration of the year.

Where do you live, BTW?

I just think moorsy has a point (although he was rude). Like I said, at least you have the option of driving. I live in the middle of nowhere with no public transport and I don't have a car. And if I did, it's a 3+ hour drive, even in the car. For my exam on the 14th I will need to get a lift to Belfast (1 1/2 hours) then a 2 hour train journey plus 15 mins walk to college. That's impossible to do every day. I'm not denying you have a long commute and that it's annoying, but as it has been stated, you have to find somewhere to park (or pay for parking) every other day.

I just can't afford to get student accommodation like you for the duration of the year.

Neither can I, I'm now 20 grand in debt. If commuting was in any way realistic I'd do it but it's impossible. I'm just making the point that loads of people are forced to pay for accommodation in Dublin and that isn't college's fault just as it's not their fault you commute and have to pay for parking. Not everyone is fortunate enough to live in Donnybrook.

C.D.

I don't actually live as fair away as you do, but due to the serious lack of investment in any kind of efficient public transport, it takes forever to get anywhere! I live in near the Wicklow mountains. Thankfully, the rents are moving up to dublin next year, right along the 46a route, so my commute shall be swift and easy!

Now to be totally fair, you guys have an absolute cracker of a time in Halls! Many a good night have I spent there! I do however, fully sympathise with you dilemma, hopefully you can get some cramming done on the train