AK 3 Bet

dvdfan

Villain is 40/12/5.0 after about 40 hands. Should i just fold to the big raise, is flat calling the worst thing i can do here should i be only considering all in or fold considering stack sizes?

Green Joke Poker Boswell 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop|saw showdown

Button ShaveMeShamrock ($20.70)
SB MrPokerIce ($25.45)
BB ry1977 ($19.70)
UTG prestige701 ($9.41)
UTG+1 CezaRone ($22.50)

Preflop: ShaveMeShamrock is on the Button with K A
1 fold, CezaRone raises to 0.80, ShaveMeShamrock raises to 3, 2 folds, CezaRone raises to 8.80, ShaveMeShamrock calls 6.60.

Flop (19.50) T 5 3
CezaRone moves all-in for 12.90, 1 fold

Hectorjelly

Just go all in preflop

dvdfan

Should we be happy enough to get all in with AK here for a full buyin. I know that wasnt the plan starting out but once he RR me are we then happy enough to get all in.

I hadnt been RR light as i was only at the table for around 40 hands and had a tight agressive image if anyone was paying attention

valor

Hectorjelly wrote:

Just go all in preflop

easy peasy

pok3rplaya

fold to his second raise preflop.

Hectorjelly

pok3rplaya wrote:

fold to his second raise preflop.

Really?

Its 10.20c, and his stats are real bad.

We have the third best hand possible!

pok3rplaya

well tbh I haven't a clue, I'm sure I'm way out of touch with the game dynamics at 0.10/0.20 but ya I'd consider it strongly. I dunno do people 4bet AK at this level? I'd think this is AA/KK and they'd "take a flop" with AK or w/e.

phantom_lord

dvdfan wrote:

Should we be happy enough to get all in with AK here for a full buyin.

yeah. it's only $20.

Hectorjelly

phantom_lord wrote:

yeah. it's only $20.

thats not really a good way of looking at it!

djsctt

I dont think flat calling villains 4 bet is an option here. I'd either fold pf or push, depending on how he has been playing. Leaning towards a fold though.

Cant see him 4 betting with AK.

Primewise

phantom_lord wrote:

yeah. it's only $20.

That is the worst advice lol.

Shouldn’t you aim to play the cards and the players rather than the stakes?

If you are 4 tabling, you have €80 at stake. If you take that attitude every time you are faced with a tough decision you’ll soon go broke!

Tar.Aldarion

Hectorjelly wrote:

thats not really a good way of looking at it!

Yeah, it's pretty crap actually.

pok3rplaya

yeah phantom lord OMG you're like, so bad at poker it's unreal.

Mr.Plough

from my experience people dont 4bet with any less than kk at 0.10/0.20 . fold for me. i probably fold as im a big nit

RedJoker

I'm sure he was joking about the $20 thing.

Fold or push preflop. I'm leaning towards fold because he's rarely 4betting with a weaker hand.

If you were sure you'd be playing these opponents regularly then it might be worth a push to give yourself an image but 1) they won't be paying enough attention and 2) at these stakes you rarely play the same guys regularly unless you're searching for them.

Also, a lot of the time that people have difficult decisions it is because they misplayed an earlier street. This is an important concept, 'Difficult Decisions, Bad Designs' will hopefully explain it better than I can.

Ste05

With those stats, I think I'd definitely just go All-In Pre-flop, I can see him having AQ even at times at these levels. Certainly his range is wider than AA, KK, QQ and AK.

TBH, I may even call his flop push because of his stats, I think he's doing that with 100% of his PF range, I'm not sure what % of that is unpaired holdings, but in the heat of a battle I may just do it,

I think it's about $11 to call and the pot is about $30, if he plays AQ, AJ, KQ like this even some of the time then it might prove to be a profitable call, (I doubt it will get much support here, and it's certainly a razor thin call but, I thought I'd throw it out there).

Mr.Plough

im pretty sure he never plays aq- like this.

Ste05

Mr.Plough wrote:

im pretty sure he never plays aq- like this.

Why?

cooker3

I call, seen 33 etc at this level from a 4 bet.

edit: when I say call, I mean push of course

Captain Tom

phantom_lord wrote:

yeah. it's only $20.

LMAO.

id consider folding this.dont people generally 4 bet in small stakes with a really small range?

pok3rplaya

What are people on about with the stats?

VPIP=40=limps a lot=passive preflop
PFR=12=tight raising range=doesn't raise much=doesn't 4 bet much probably if at all
40 hands= it all means funk all any way.

dvdfan

Ste05 wrote:

With those stats, I think I'd definitely just go All-In Pre-flop, I can see him having AQ even at times at these levels. Certainly his range is wider than AA, KK, QQ and AK.

TBH, I may even call his flop push because of his stats, I think he's doing that with 100% of his PF range, I'm not sure what % of that is unpaired holdings, but in the heat of a battle I may just do it,

I think it's about $11 to call and the pot is about $30, if he plays AQ, AJ, KQ like this even some of the time then it might prove to be a profitable call, (I doubt it will get much support here, and it's certainly a razor thin call but, I thought I'd throw it out there).

When i seen the flop there was nothing there that i would think improved his hand and i was leaning towards a call because were very close to pot committed and the open push on the flop seemed to be protecting a hand like KK or QQ but i taught i played the hand so bad by calling that RR and not pushing that i wasnt going to make another mistake by calling with A high and only 2 cards left to hit with possibly only 3 outs.

phantom_lord

lol, yeah I was joking. i think you should fold or shove pf.

TheRock

pok3rplaya wrote:

What are people on about with the stats?

VPIP=40=limps a lot=passive preflop
PFR=12=tight raising range=doesn't raise much=doesn't 4 bet much probably if at all
40 hands= it all means funk all any way.

Remind me what the /5.0 stat means again please.

Marq

You should push because poker is more fun that way.

RedJoker

TheRock wrote:

Remind me what the /5.0 stat means again please.

5.0 is the total aggression factor. It's calculated as (bet% + raise%) / call% postflop.