two more omaha hands!

MisterMonkey

***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 209291413 *****
PL $2.50/$5 Omaha - Thursday, May 17, 21:37:46 GMT 2007
Table Rhone 02 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: mrsbig ( $353.27 )
Seat 2: zyrygon ( $786 )
Seat 3: PLONQUER ( $340.75 )
Seat 4: The Monke ( $892.38 )
Seat 5: Avi Lior ( $1,015.63 )
Seat 6: puhprah2 ( $1,312.23 )
Avi Lior posts small blind [$2.50]
puhprah2 posts big blind [$5]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to The Monke [ 3d, As, 9s, 3h ]
mrsbig raises to [$10]
zyrygon calls [$10]
PLONQUER calls [$10]
The Monke calls [$10]
Avi Lior calls [$7.50]
puhprah2 calls [$5]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3s, Js, Qd ]
Avi Lior checks
puhprah2 checks
mrsbig checks
zyrygon bets [$60]
PLONQUER folds
The Monke raises to [$240]
Avi Lior folds
puhprah2 folds
mrsbig folds
zyrygon goes all-in
zyrygon raises to [$776]
The Monke calls [$536]


is this an insta call every time even if he has higher set a % of the time


***** Betfair Poker Hand History for Game 209308020 *****
PL $2.50/$5 Omaha - Thursday, May 17, 22:09:30 GMT 2007
Table Rhone 02 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: mrsbig ( $1,533.53 )
Seat 2: zyrygon ( $874 )
Seat 3: PLONQUER ( $303.50 )
Seat 4: The Monke ( $1,932.65 )
Seat 5: Avi Lior ( $1,028.63 )
Seat 6: puhprah2 ( $194.50 )
PLONQUER posts small blind [$2.50]
The Monke posts big blind [$5]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to The Monke [ Jh, Qh, 5s, Qc ]
Avi Lior folds
puhprah2 calls [$5]
mrsbig calls [$5]
zyrygon calls [$5]
PLONQUER calls [$2.50]
The Monke raises to [$10]
puhprah2 calls [$5]
mrsbig calls [$5]
zyrygon calls [$5]
PLONQUER calls [$5]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qd, 9h, 3h ]
PLONQUER checks
The Monke bets [$50]
puhprah2 folds
mrsbig folds
zyrygon calls [$50]
PLONQUER folds
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jd ]
The Monke checks
zyrygon checks
** Dealing River ** [ Th ]
The Monke checks
zyrygon bets [$150]

should i always be betting the turn here? i was cursing myself for having checked as soon as i did it, but feared he may have called with a wrap and didn't want to face a reraise, is it a crying call on river given his bluff equity?

Flipper

Ok, i'm tired so my responses will be brief...

Hand 1: Yes, I play the same way and go broke almost every time.

Hand 2: Min-raises preflop in PLO are gay. PLO has a unique geometric pot-building system so use it well. The Jack is a reasonably good card for you (could only be a gutshot most of the time). Bet 3/4 pot - your hand is huge. I like the check-call on the river. I never bet it and I never fold. I expect him to have JKxx, maybe have backed into two pair or else have the nuts. UL if he has the latter.

5starpool

As Flipper said, hand 1 is fine (except maybe preflop - not a good hand). Hand 2 I def bet the turn (and as said, minraise is horrible in any game preflop), and check call river a lot.

sickpuppy

Hi sean in hand 1 id be folding to two people who play these stakes. PLONQUER is a well known irish player rock altogether and marie 87 is also atighter than tight player againest everone else i pump it drawing to 1 outer usually.Hand 2 bet the pot on the turn even if he has the str8 uhave your flush draw and sett to pair , as played call the river.

5starpool

sickpuppy wrote:

Hi sean in hand 1 id be folding to two people who play these stakes. PLONQUER is a well known irish player rock altogether and marie 87 is also atighter than tight player againest everone else i pump it drawing to 1 outer usually.Hand 2 bet the pot on the turn even if he has the str8 uhave your flush draw and sett to pair , as played call the river.

He has the nut flush draw in hand 1 as well Mick, so more than a 1 outer.

accensi0n

I'd fold hand 1 preflop.

dougee19

Flipper wrote:

I like the check-call on the river. I never bet it and I never fold. I expect him to have JKxx, maybe have backed into two pair or else have the nuts. UL if he has the latter.

are you seriously saying you call on the river??????? yikes.....
nut flush draw made no???
also you say you think he has kj, that does trip queens though......


hand1. i would never fold this.... honestly
you have the nut flush draw for back up if you are behind, there are a lot of lunatics who do that with top 2, good chance of him having so form or wrap and lower flush draw, but i wouldnt be folding here for $500


hand 2. i dont know why people say above that it would be a gutshot.... this is omaha.... he could easily have a wrap and in the moment you are more than likely going to check unless you are an aggressive player. the check is entitling both him and you to a free card. if the board pairs with a heart i think you get paid somewhat here with that cheque, i'mpretty sure he hit nut flush on river and got lucky, but there is a chance he calls the turn too if another draw came about....
just think you got unlucky here and couldnt really get any money from either of these

Marq

dougee19 wrote:

also you say you think he has kj, that does trip queens though......

The hero has a queen high flush on the river here.
In that hand I hate the min-raise - it's just asking for trouble.
I would lead the turn and probably call the river here.

Hand one fold preflop some of the time.
You will be shown a hand that you're beating almost 0% of the time here, but you have to shove it in with the nut flush draw given the odds you're getting.

MisterMonkey

in the first hand i called the river he had nut flush, no straight draws, i think i prob bitched out not betting the turn, hand two he had bare king flush draw!turn and river are blanks although he was drawing dead so thats pretty irrelevant.

MisterMonkey

who are you sick puppy!?

5starpool

MisterMonkey wrote:

in the first hand i called the river he had nut flush, no straight draws, i think i prob bitched out not betting the turn, hand two he had bare king flush draw!turn and river are blanks although he was drawing dead so thats pretty irrelevant.

The other way around?

MisterMonkey

sorry yeah other way round

sickpuppy

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