TPTK and nut flush draw facing big raise

Primewise

Live Pot limit Cash Game 1 / 2 at the Fitz


UTG (€300)
Hero (€1000) dealt AcJc in 4th position
Player A (€1000) in the cuttoff position
Villain (€400) on the button

Player A seems solid
Villain is normally aggressive and slightly loose.


Preflop
UTG limps
Hero raises to 10
Player A re-raises 25
Villain calls
UTG calls
Hero calls


Flop: Jh 7c 5c Pot €112 giving Hero TPTK with the nut flush draw

UTG bets 15
Hero raises to 50
Player A calls 50
Villain re-Raises to 330 (pot bet)
UTG folds

Action to Hero??? Player A is still to act behind and has me covered

pok3rplaya

I don't think you should raise he flop because of how deep you guys are and all the other people in the hand.

Ste05

I agree with pok3rplaya, but if I did raise it would be a pot size raise. A played I'm not too worried about the Villain in the hand, I'm getting all-in with him, what matters here is the "solid" player A, any more information on him, what's he flat calling your re-raise with??

sickpuppy

Its an all in for me cant see player a calling you after flat calling the 50.Villain has 70 left so by raising were presuming well be heads up.He might have a sett if so u still have outs, however live in town tp nut flush draw is an allin reraise for every time barringa serious read on aplayer so ship it.

phantom_lord

definitely just call the flop bet, you're so deep, plus you have the pf rrr behind you, all you're doing is increasing the sized bet he can make.

I think you should fold here, I'd probably get it in against the 330 raiser, but with two other players behind, I think it's a fold.

maybe I'm way off and being too nitty here tho.

5starpool

I think you are clearly behind here most of the time, and having the initial preflop re-raiser behind you doesn't help. As pok3rplaya says above, the raise on the flop isn't good I think.

I probably fold a lot here in a deep cash game.

Tar.Aldarion

I foyu are going to bet it would be a pot bet.

pok3rplaya

Wait I didn't see the caller behind us. What I do now depends a lot on that guy and how he plays.

Primewise

What actually happened:

I called (hee-haw!!) , Player A folded Aces. I got all-in against villain who showed QQ (hee-haw!!)

Obviously I missed my flush-draw

Tar.Aldarion

pok3rplaya

ffs make some effort to comprehend the advice you are getting before you just post the results.

It's like you just wanted to tell us a story about this hand you played the other night.

Primewise

pok3rplaya wrote:

ffs make some effort to comprehend the advice you are getting before you just post the results.

It's like you just wanted to tell us a story about this hand you played the other night.

ehhhhh, thats just rude...

why do you think I waited until I got responses before posting the result? I did comprehend your answers.

I learned that my preflop raise was too aggressive, and my flop raise was far too aggressive... and that my call made me a donkey.

pok3rplaya

Right sorry. I'm just saying there's a bunch of other stuff to discuss about this hand if you could give us more info instead of results. It's actually a very interesting hand.

Primewise

Ok, I should have waited for more discussion before posting result.

I realised after this hand how solid Player A actually was. This would usually be a good laydown for the Aces, in the face of massive strength.

I actually put the villain on a low set, and called for my flush (which is a regular leak I need to fix). I’m a bit too LAG in live play, but can play tighter online for some reason

pok3rplaya

is this 10 handed?

bops

interesting hand with nice deep stacks

as you already know: dont raise the flop bet and call the allin if you wish to gamble

pokaplaya may be blunt but makes a good point about putting results in too early - kinda kills the discussion