PLO 50/1 advice

redzerdrog

0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Wed May 16 11:10:45 EDT 2007
Table Table 127067 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: poelle2 ( $33.60)
Seat 2: redzerdrog ( $122.70)
Seat 3: superlucky18 ( $37.20)
Seat 4: mind3 ( $98.75)
Seat 5: Lumbehund ( $43.35)
Seat 6: Toeger1 ( $136.50)
Seat 7: oblivion000 ( $50)
Seat 8: Jampero ( $15.90)
Seat 9: crous ( $12.50)
Seat 10: bobwx ( $161.25)
Jampero posts small blind (0.50)
crous posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to redzerdrog [ 9s, Ts, 7h, 9h ]
bobwx calls (1)
poelle2 folds.
redzerdrog raises (4.50) to 4.50
superlucky18 calls (4.50)
mind3 folds.
Toeger1 folds.
Jampero calls (4)
crous folds.
bobwx calls (3.50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qh, 8h, 9c ]
Jampero bets (11.40)
Jampero is all-In.
bobwx calls (11.40)


Whats my move here? call or raise? If i raise how much?

on a side note i have been playing terrible for the past 2 days so my line is prob terrible just wondering how the PLO experts would play it.

IHAVEACAT

redzerdrog wrote:

0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Wed May 16 11:10:45 EDT 2007
Table Table 127067 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: poelle2 ( $33.60)
Seat 2: redzerdrog ( $122.70)
Seat 3: superlucky18 ( $37.20)
Seat 4: mind3 ( $98.75)
Seat 5: Lumbehund ( $43.35)
Seat 6: Toeger1 ( $136.50)
Seat 7: oblivion000 ( $50)
Seat 8: Jampero ( $15.90)
Seat 9: crous ( $12.50)
Seat 10: bobwx ( $161.25)
Jampero posts small blind (0.50)
crous posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to redzerdrog [ 9s, Ts, 7h, 9h ]
bobwx calls (1)
poelle2 folds.
redzerdrog raises (4.50) to 4.50
superlucky18 calls (4.50)
mind3 folds.
Toeger1 folds.
Jampero calls (4)
crous folds.
bobwx calls (3.50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qh, 8h, 9c ]
Jampero bets (11.40)
Jampero is all-In.
bobwx calls (11.40)


Whats my move here? call or raise? If i raise how much?

on a side note i have been playing terrible for the past 2 days so my line is prob terrible just wondering how the PLO experts would play it.

i cant see bob not raising with the nuts here to islotate against draws so i would think hes flushing.

if jampero has the nuts which he prob does. then u are 62.93% to win. as long as he dosnt have your hearts covered. if he does ur bout 36.83% but i cant see him having hearts since he popped it on flop. in this spot i would raise here to isolate here. if bobwx wants to chase his draw your favourite aginst him here so i would try to keep him in but give him wrong price. this is a dream flop 4 u imo so i would try to extract as much value as possible. pop it to like 3/5 ofpot imo

DeadParrot

well nut str8 is more than likely gone
nut flush draw ditto

At first glance its not that pretty.
nice price for a call but be prepared to drop it to a scarey turn which unfortunately is most of the deck for you....I may get a ruch of blood and pump it but its very read dependent

You have to hope bob is doing a bad job of playing AA....

busted flush

im raising it up here your all over it like a bad nappy rash!
set, str draw and flush draw! though im no expert!!!!!

5starpool

Pot it. If the other guy comes along for the ride then he either has your set in trouble, or your hearts in trouble, and if both then just a cooler. You have 2 non nut draws though (bar the other 9 of course) which I hate in Omaha, but I don't think you can let this go. Raise and get it all in on the turn if called.

Killme00

We are assuming here that Villian two does not have the nut straight (minimum already). Suprisingly we have the correct odds to call here but not to raise

board: Qh8h9c
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
TJ** 21.81% 23,284 180,435
9s9hTs7h 37.68% 186,805 14,863
ThJ*h* 40.51% 118,421 180,435



If Villian two just has hearts then you are in good shape and getting the correct odds to at least call

board: Qh8h9c
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
TJ** 38.24% 197,155 30,041
9s9hTs7h 37.05% 191,760 27,616
AhKh** 24.71% 135,916 2,425

In this situation i am more inclined to reraise now and bet any scare card turn or river

eoghan104

Yeh I dont know how you can do anything but pot it. Its pretty obvious that bob is on a draw most likley a heart + straight combo. At this level you may even get looked up by two pair so its an insta pot for me. no matter what hand your against you will have improvers so I look to get as much money in as fast as I can!

redzerdrog

redzerdrog wrote:

0/0 Omaha Game Table (PL) - Wed May 16 11:10:45 EDT 2007
Table Table 127067 (Real Money) -- Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: poelle2 ( $33.60)
Seat 2: redzerdrog ( $122.70)
Seat 3: superlucky18 ( $37.20)
Seat 4: mind3 ( $98.75)
Seat 5: Lumbehund ( $43.35)
Seat 6: Toeger1 ( $136.50)
Seat 7: oblivion000 ( $50)
Seat 8: Jampero ( $15.90)
Seat 9: crous ( $12.50)
Seat 10: bobwx ( $161.25)
Jampero posts small blind (0.50)
crous posts big blind (1)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to redzerdrog [ 9s, Ts, 7h, 9h ]
bobwx calls (1)
poelle2 folds.
redzerdrog raises (4.50) to 4.50
superlucky18 calls (4.50)
mind3 folds.
Toeger1 folds.
Jampero calls (4)
crous folds.
bobwx calls (3.50)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ Qh, 8h, 9c ]
Jampero bets (11.40)
Jampero is all-In.
bobwx calls (11.40)


Whats my move here? call or raise? If i raise how much?

on a side note i have been playing terrible for the past 2 days so my line is prob terrible just wondering how the PLO experts would play it.

well i ended up potting it and this is what happened next whats your thinking?

redzerdrog raises (63.65) to 63.65
superlucky18 folds.
bobwx calls (52.25)
Creating Main Pot with $50.55 with Jampero
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ks ]
bobwx bets (93.10)
bobwx is all-In.

I have roughly $55 behind now.

IHAVEACAT

its an ugly card but its a math called if it put him ahead which it probly did you have so enuf outs to stick in your last 50 correctly

redzerdrog

i called anyway this was the outcome.

redzerdrog calls (54.55)
redzerdrog is all-In.
** Dealing River ** : [ 4s ]
Creating Side Pot 1 with $213.25 with redzerdrog
** Summary **
Main Pot: $50.55 | Side Pot 1: $213.25 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Qh 8h 9c Ks 4s ]

poelle2 balance $33.60, didn't bet (folded)
redzerdrog balance $0, lost $122.70 [ 9s Ts 7h 9h ] [ three of a kind, Nines -- Ks,Qh,9s,9h,9c ]

superlucky18 balance $32.70, lost $4.50 (folded)
mind3 balance $98.75, didn't bet (folded)
Lumbehund balance $43.35, sits out
Toeger1 balance $136.50, didn't bet (folded)
oblivion000 balance $50, sits out
Jampero balance $0, lost $15.90 [ Js 5h Qd Jc ] [ a pair of Queens -- Ks,Qd,Qh,Js,9c ]

crous balance $11.50, lost $1 (folded)
bobwx balance $302.35, bet $161.25, collected $302.35, net +$141.10 [ 7d Jd Th Qs ] [ a straight Nine to King -- Ks,Qh,Jd,Th,9c ]

Didnt think he could be flat calling with the straight on such a dangerous flop but thanks for the help anyway.

smoothcall

its good to flat call here with the straight sometimes, bacause its such a draw heavy board. You dont want to get it all in with the bare nuts when somebody could be freerolling on you. It sometimes better to just call see how it plays out, you can end up bluffing the same hand out if a scare card comes