Another suicide? Whats going on?

Femelade

Not again surely..?
Yet another tragedy hits our headlines...
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/frontpage/2007/0516/1179184317567.html

Tar.Aldarion

Suicide?

_feedback_

Garda Press Office wrote:

"At this stage of the investigation there are no signs of any foul play."

Really hope it's not suicide as you have suggested....

ireland.com wrote:

Local outgoing TD Dr Jim McDaid formally pronounced Ms Innes and her daughter dead at the scene yesterday afternoon.

Since when do local TD's officially pronounce someone dead??!!

Femelade

I heard on my local radio station that the mother was found hanging...but i seriously hope that is not the case..

crosstownk

elviscostello wrote:

Since when do local TD's officially pronounce someone dead??!!

When he's a doctor.............

Robbo

elviscostello wrote:

Since when do local TD's officially pronounce someone dead??!!

Well he is also a physician.

Heinrich

elviscostello wrote:

Really hope it's not suicide as you have suggested....



Since when do local TD's officially pronounce someone dead??!!

Presumably since they qualified as medical practictioners.

Femelade

http://www.unison.ie/irish_independent/
seems to suggest suicide here...

Tar.Aldarion

How did the girl suffocate? Surely not suicide?

_feedback_

crosstownk wrote:

When he's a doctor.............

Ah Bollix :rolleyes:

They should have left out the 'Local outgoing TD' bit.... too early in the morning for me!

gyppo

elviscostello wrote:

Really hope it's not suicide as you have suggested....

Why, what would you prefer it to be??

c - 13

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

How did the girl suffocate? Surely not suicide?

From the Indo article linked above -

... was apparently suffocated to death before her mother hanged herself.

Tha Gopher

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0516/innes.html

Now, Im not saying the Indo is definitely wrong, but we are talking about the same paper that broke the Liam Lawlor death with a bit of spice. Or having the tact to mention that cop who died in childbirth was married to the shooter in the Abbeylara incident. And a few others I cant remember right now.

That paper, I think its trying to outdo the Suns Hillsborough reporting sometimes. Wouldnt wipe my arse with it.

ferdi

Tha Gopher wrote:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0516/innes.html

Now, Im not saying the Indo is definitely wrong, but we are talking about the same paper that broke the Liam Lawlor death with a bit of spice. Or having the tact to mention that cop who died in childbirth was married to the shooter in the Abbeylara incident. And a few others I cant remember right now.

That paper, I think its trying to outdo the Suns Hillsborough reporting sometimes. Wouldnt wipe my arse with it.

well said. its a filthy rag.

Binomate

They need an ad campaign that just says "Cop on FFS".

_feedback_

gyppo wrote:

Why, what would you prefer it to be??

Give it a rest ......

It's another terrible loss which could be the result of any number of scenarios. The first media reports are suggesting suicide. When I said I really hope it's not suicide , I think the majority would have been thinking the same. The loss of two young people and I'm sure you'll agree gyppo, nobody would have had any preferences on the way they went.

danniemcq

yeah i was 3 or 4 doors away from the house in question last night i heard enough details to say murder suicide but i'm not gonna get into the details cause i don't think its right

Heinrich

Yes people, let's wait until we get the same story from the Times and RTE.

luckat

Femmy wrote:

I heard that themother was found hanging on my local radio station..

Unusual way to do it.

Seriously, suicide is incredibly catching. (See Malcolm Gladwell's essay on the subject in The Tipping Point.) After a young male suicide, especially if it's someone locally idolised, you get a bunch of young male suicides, and a bunch of young male single-car crashes. After a young woman kills herself and her children, you often get imitative suicide-murder attempts and successes.

Wish the health service would get its act together about weekend cover, though.

stovelid

Tha Gopher wrote:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2007/0516/innes.html

Now, Im not saying the Indo is definitely wrong, but we are talking about the same paper that broke the Liam Lawlor death with a bit of spice. Or having the tact to mention that cop who died in childbirth was married to the shooter in the Abbeylara incident. And a few others I cant remember right now.

That paper, I think its trying to outdo the Suns Hillsborough reporting sometimes. Wouldnt wipe my arse with it.

++

The SINDO has "become" particularly noxious.

gyppo

elviscostello wrote:

It's another terrible loss which could be the result of any number of scenarios. The first media reports are suggesting suicide. When I said I really hope it's not suicide , I think the majority would have been thinking the same. The loss of two young people and I'm sure you'll agree gyppo, nobody would have had any preferences on the way they went.

Totally agree with you about the tragic loss of life. I just thought your statement was a bit odd - the fact that it may have been suicide is no more/less tragic than if it had been accidental or malicious - the net result is the same - the untimely end of two lives.

_feedback_

gyppo wrote:

the fact that it may have been suicide is no more/less tragic than if it had been accidental or malicious

Various different reasons for death will have different impact on the people left behind.

As far as I know, nothing has been confirmed for cause of death etc ..

sam34

luckat wrote:

Wish the health service would get its act together about weekend cover, though.

there IS a psychiatric service provided in every area 24/7, with doctors on call. admissions to psych units dont just happen between 9 and 5 mon to fri. social services dont provide weekend cover but the psych services do. everywhere in the country.

Dudess

Tha Gopher wrote:

we are talking about the same paper that broke the Liam Lawlor death with a bit of spice. Or having the tact to mention that cop who died in childbirth was married to the shooter in the Abbeylara incident. And a few others I cant remember right now.
That paper, I think its trying to outdo the Suns Hillsborough reporting sometimes. Wouldnt wipe my arse with it.

No, the stories you mentioned were actually broken by the Sunday Independent as opposed to the Irish Independent. Same company yes, but still two different papers. Different editor-in-chief, editorial team and writers. Not that the Indo is a bastion of quality journalism or anything, but I still wouldn't consider it a fraction as trashy as the Sindo.

Dr. Seuss

Femmy wrote:

Another suicide? Whats going on?

Eh, it's a coincidence. Why - what did you think was going on?

brianthebard

Binomate wrote:

They need an ad campaign that just says "Cop on FFS".

Whos that going to help?

Tar.Aldarion

c - 13 wrote:

From the Indo article linked above -

That doesn't answer the question either way.:)

c - 13

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

That doesn't answer the question either way.:)

Valid point.