lying about age on cv......

x in the city

right folks,

just wondering is there any benefit from lying about your age on a cv, i was thinking of maybe knocking 3 years off my cv,not that you would know from looking at me.....

nothing too sinister, i have never been asked for proof of age in any job i worked in, .??

feylya

Don't include your date of birth or age on a cv. It is irrelevant to the job and should be irrelevant to the employer

x in the city

really?


sweet..............;)

Irish Wolf

And from what I can recall they can't ask you at interview stage what age you are as it may be perceived to be a grounds for discrimination if it were the case that you weren't offered the job.

mikemac

Sure won't they find out when they get your P45 with your PPS number?
I'd imagine it'd be fairly easy to check this out

feylya

They will have offered you the job and you will have accepted before they get that.

damnyanks

It's illegal for them to discriminate based on age isnt it? Dont even stick it on your CV or your nationality.

BostonB

I usually pretty obvious from your work experience.

leeroybrown

Legally the can only ask if you are under 18 or over 65. It's illegal to discriminate based on age once someone is within that age bracket. As pointed out you can normally tell within a couple of years from the other details.

Don't falsify anything on your CV as it could be grounds for dismissal in many cases.

As a matter of interest, why do you want to make yourself appear younger? I'm wondering what you thing you can gain by appearing to be younger.

you gotta be over 18 to work in some places...

I don't see what else you would change your age for?

legs11

lads, tis fine

i was just a bit paranoid:D

im over 18 so relax, i have a degree (albeit a **** one) just thought might be more attractive to would be employers, but forget it.

hmmmm


anyways.

The Hill Billy

If your new employer will be contributing towards a pension for you they will need to know your exact age.

Regardless, is it really worth the hassle to lie about/conceal your age though?

lukin

micmclo wrote:

Sure won't they find out when they get your P45 with your PPS number?
I'd imagine it'd be fairly easy to check this out

Yeah but in most places only the HR department would see your P45.
They would be in trouble if they went around telling other people that kind of information.

nesf

damnyanks wrote:

It's illegal for them to discriminate based on age isnt it? Dont even stick it on your CV or your nationality.

I've never thought about putting my nationality on my CV. My name makes it fairly obvious though. Along with my education and work experience tbh. The odds of me having a nationality other than Irish would be slim.

damnyanks

I dont' work in Ireland so maybe thats why. Usually a lot of companies will drop you if they think you need a visa.

nesf

damnyanks wrote:

I dont' work in Ireland so maybe thats why. Usually a lot of companies will drop you if they think you need a visa.

Yeah but honestly I can see why they might if getting you a work visa isn't worth the hassle of hiring you over this other guy who while slightly less experienced, doesn't need one.

MarkR

Could be required if health insurance is provided I suppose...

nesf

MarkR wrote:

Could be required if health insurance is provided I suppose...

That would be interesting. Could they justifiably not hire you if you were 40 stone, 63 year old, chain smoking, skin off a chicken eating, health insurance black spot?

Eoin

nesf wrote:

That would be interesting. Could they justifiably not hire you if you were 40 stone, 63 year old, chain smoking, skin off a chicken eating, health insurance black spot?

Wasn't there a job advert a while ago that was only looking for non-smokers? I think there was a bit of debate around it, and they were allowed to continue to use it as a criterion.

feylya wrote:

Don't include your date of birth or age on a cv. It is irrelevant to the job and should be irrelevant to the employer

I think I have my DOB on my CVp; doesn't particularly bother me one way or the other as my work experience and college time lines all add up. I certainly wouldn't falsify any information, regardless of whether a position has already been offered or not.

Chinafoot

nesf wrote:

That would be interesting. Could they justifiably not hire you if you were 40 stone, 63 year old, chain smoking, skin off a chicken eating, health insurance black spot?

If you fail the medical then they don't have to hire you. That's how it is in the public/civil service anyway.

brianthebard

feylya wrote:

They will have offered you the job and you will have accepted before they get that.

But they would have grounds to fire you then if they found out you lied on your CV. Best to just not bring it up as already said.

feylya

How can you lie if you haven't put your age on your cv?

nesf

eoin_s wrote:

Wasn't there a job advert a while ago that was only looking for non-smokers? I think there was a bit of debate around it, and they were allowed to continue to use it as a criterion.

Yeah, I vaguely remember something like that. I find the line between what's ok to discriminate against and what isn't very interesting.

pow wow

Most jobs I've had have required my passport or driver's licence as proof of ID...both of which show your date of birth.

brianthebard

nesf wrote:

Yeah, I vaguely remember something like that. I find the line between what's ok to discriminate against and what isn't very interesting.

I think the non-smoking thing is about work productivity and the possible impact smoking has on relations in the workplace. Or at least I imagine that's how employers would put it. I think it is quite an interesting debate. Also if more workplaces were to say no smokers need apply could it contribute to people giving up, for the sake of a job?? Could be good for the anti-smoking lobby/government policies.

nesf

brianthebard wrote:

I think the non-smoking thing is about work productivity and the possible impact smoking has on relations in the workplace. Or at least I imagine that's how employers would put it. I think it is quite an interesting debate. Also if more workplaces were to say no smokers need apply could it contribute to people giving up, for the sake of a job?? Could be good for the anti-smoking lobby/government policies.

The productivity argument doesn't work though. You simply ban smoking breaks during work and treat them the exact same as if they were non-smokers. You're not entitled to your smoking breaks as a smoker after all.

brianthebard

That's one way of dealing with it. Its also possible that smokers will be more likely to take sick days, especially if as they get older and continue to smoke. I'm only putting thoughts out there. Last year when I worked in a factory half the lads in the unit (of 8 or 9) smoked. It tended to irritate the non-smokers that the lads who smoked were taking breaks or when we sat outside on the bench they didn't like the smoke being in the air. Its just one more thing that will seperate a workplace and can lead to a bad vibe imo.

drdre

Wht reduce your age? Theres no point really.