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Online or Offline that is the question

  • 15-05-2007 3:21pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13


    Just wondering which type of tournaments people prefer. I myself prefer playing with the lads or a organised event in a pub, casino, etc, but would like to know what the general poker players prefer playing in. Do you think that the real poker players ar in offline events as you can read the opposition, or do you think it is the complete opposite?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    It takes slightly different skills to play each well. Online players tend to have a better technical understanding of the game and, in my opinion, are tougher than live players playing at the same level.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    I prefer live, I'm better. I don't like using stats online, and I prefer to try and read a player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,092 ✭✭✭Glowingmind


    I'll take a live tourney of an online one any day of the week. The only reason i'd play more online games than live ones is purely down to my own time constraints and weird working hours.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭IHAVEACAT


    i prefer online myself i think im equally good at live but i prefer being able to lie on my sofa or get something to eat (comforts)etc.etc and most of the time there is always a decnt mtt on any given site


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Definitely live for me. For some reason I can't really get into the whole online poker thing. Apathy is a curse at times.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    More money online but more fun live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    I've only played live a few times (well besides scores of draw poker games in pubs in my youth). I have been really shocked by how bad players are in cash games in live games. I think any winning online player unless he/she was practically giving off point blank obvious tells would beat live games of the same equivalent level of what they win at online.

    I'd love to play live more, but alas it's not practical for me to do so :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭bops


    I prefer live, I'm better. I don't like using stats online, and I prefer to try and read a player.

    also more fun & sociable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Slash/ED


    Online bores me, and so it also means I'll play like sh-t too. Mind you, that's probably because I've never invested enough in online poker to play the limits I'd play live. It's difficult to force yourself to care about making the mathmatically correct call for a pot of a fiver.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    live is incredibly boring, playing 25 hands an hour at best, putting up with morons talking crap at the table, plus higher rake and tips. The only positive is that the standard is usually awful.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,065 ✭✭✭fabsoul


    live is incredibly boring, playing 25 hands an hour at best, putting up with morons talking crap at the table, plus higher rake and tips. The only positive is that the standard is usually awful.

    true, a lot of the players are awful.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭IHAVEACAT


    live is incredibly boring, playing 25 hands an hour at best, putting up with morons talking crap at the table, plus higher rake and tips. The only positive is that the standard is usually awful.

    is it just me or are my live swings worse than my online swings?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭bops


    live is incredibly boring, playing 25 hands an hour at best, putting up with morons talking crap at the table, plus higher rake and tips. The only positive is that the standard is usually awful.


    playing in dublin it can be very boring, usualy listening to know-it-all knobs, but down in the sticks in can be great craic - i generally play in a few different venues with lots of poker buddies - i find it more enjoyable than going for a few pints (jeeez im a sad case)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    IHAVEACAT wrote:
    is it just me or are my live swings worse than my online swings?
    probably just seems like it, since you can play about a months worth of live hands in a night online. so a 30k downswing would appear to last forever live, while it'd be fairly standard online.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭IHAVEACAT


    LuckyLloyd wrote:
    They are the same. They just seem worse, because a 4k hands patch of bad variance could equate to six weeks of live play.

    it was retorical but thx


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭IHAVEACAT


    probably just seems like it, since you can play about a months worth of live hands in a night online. so a 30k downswing would appear to last forever live, while it'd be fairly standard online.

    i know i know i was just jesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,761 ✭✭✭redzerdrog


    i prefer to play live because i play higher stakes live than i do online and i enjoy getting out and about plus having a little brother wrecking my head doesnt help my consentration online.
    I am probly a better live player aswell as i try to use my reads as best i can.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 guubert


    live is real poker


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    both can be boring in their own ways.

    i dont enjoy sitting in front of a screen smoking for 6 hours compared to sitting at a table, with a wait-er/ress, playing with chips, and overall being more social.

    but if you go card dead live play can be brutal. multitabling online your card dead alot less.

    i play smaller stakes online than live, but the standard of 0.25/0.50 is much better than 1/2 live imo, so more money to be made live(for me)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭IHAVEACAT


    Mr.Plough wrote:
    both can be boring in their own ways.

    i dont enjoy sitting in front of a screen smoking for 6 hours compared to sitting at a table, with a wait-er/ress, playing with chips, and overall being more social.

    but if you go card dead live play can be brutal. multitabling online your card dead alot less.

    i play smaller stakes online than live, but the standard of 0.25/0.50 is much better than 1/2 live imo, so more money to be made live(for me)

    i see where u are coming from but if i lets say 6-10 table 1/2 or 2/4 online my profit will far exceed that of playing in a live 1/2 game full of deep nits. i like to play live its more fun and sociable but i like to make money more so i think live is better. but its all about what you want from poker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    IHAVEACAT wrote:
    i see where u are coming from but if i lets say 6-10 table 1/2 or 2/4 online my profit will far exceed that of playing in a live 1/2 game full of deep nits. i like to play live its more fun and sociable but i like to make money more so i think live is better. but its all about what you want from poker.


    i was saying that my profit live is greater because i play 1/2 live and 0.25/0.50 online.

    if i was multitabling 1/2 online of course online would be much more profitable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭IHAVEACAT


    Mr.Plough wrote:
    i was saying that my profit live is greater because i play 1/2 live and 0.25/0.50 online.

    if i was multitabling 1/2 online of course online would be much more profitable

    u missed it. dont u think if you 8-10 tabled 0.25/0.50 online your pph would be grater than playing 1/2. the swings would also be less fierce and by playing vastly more hands aginst better players u in turn will become a more competent player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,437 ✭✭✭luckylucky


    IHAVEACAT wrote:
    i see where u are coming from but if i lets say 6-10 table 1/2 or 2/4 online my profit will far exceed that of playing in a live 1/2 game full of deep nits. i like to play live its more fun and sociable but i like to make money more so i think live is better. but its all about what you want from poker.

    You say play 6-10 1-2 or 2-4 tables online like it's a piece of cake. Not so many can sustain that imo over along period of time, do you play that many?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 722 ✭✭✭busted flush


    much more perfer live . holdem espically! time is the big problem as generally to make any dough you will have to put in the hours so leaving at 2/3 am is a bummer


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭IHAVEACAT


    luckylucky wrote:
    You say play 6-10 1-2 or 2-4 tables online like it's a piece of cake. Not so many can sustain that imo over along period of time, do you play that many?

    yes i do i play from 6-10 tables every time i sit down unles im playing an mtt then ill just play 2 cash tables on 1 screen and 1 screen for the mtt. i dont mean to say its like a piece of cake. i didnt start of 6 tabling i added tables over time.i think 10 tabling is my max though anymore than that i feel that it would to too much harm to be covered by the potential profit.

    i understand some people cant sustain that but if you condidtioned urself over a period of time i think it is achievable for any profitable player. start of 2 tabling and add 1 when u feel confident. dont play moree than 4 tables on 1 screen imo.

    what i was trying to say was that people who play the lives game usually say they do because they are alot weaker than online=more $$$,but i think u could make equal profit playing lowers satkes online and make more profit while having more benefits(morehands=moreexperience, comfort of ur own home,alot smaller swingsetc.etc)

    4+ tabling is pretty standard no?


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