50c/$1 PLO, pump it or dump it?

eddiehead

so far the raiser has been solid but aggressive, and generally goes nuts postflop for continuation. just wondering if ye think im wrong to push this, some constructive criticism please.........


PL $0.50/$1 Omaha - Tuesday, May 15, 12:24:57 GMT 2007
Table Upper Rhine 02 6-max (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of active players : 6
Seat 1: botafogo1 ( $42.80 )
Seat 2: blinddate4 ( $38 )
Seat 3: lotsofouts ( $138.10 )
Seat 4: malyszu ( $66.25 )
Seat 5: MelanEHarry ( $161.10 )
Seat 6: head147 ( $84.90 )
malyszu posts small blind [$0.50]
MelanEHarry posts big blind [$1]
blinddate4 posts big blind [$1]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to head147 [ Jd, Ac, 8c, Ad ]
head147 calls [$1]
botafogo1 folds
blinddate4 checks
lotsofouts folds
malyszu calls [$0.50]
MelanEHarry raises to [$5]
head147 calls [$4]
blinddate4 calls [$4]
malyszu calls [$4]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d, 8d, 3h ]
malyszu checks
MelanEHarry bets [$8]
head147 raises to [$44]
blinddate4 folds
malyszu folds
MelanEHarry calls [$36]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9s ]
MelanEHarry bets [$108]
head147 calls [$35.90]
head147 goes all-in
Returning uncalled bet [$72.10] to MelanEHarry
** Dealing River ** [ Ah ]
** Showdown **
MelanEHarry shows [ 6h, 7s, 4d, 5s ] a straight, Nine to Five
head147 shows [ Jd, Ac, 8c, Ad ] three of a kind, Aces
** Hand Conclusion **
MelanEHarry wins $176.80 from main pot with a straight, Nine to Five

BigCityBanker

reraise preflop, pump flop.

HiCloy

BigCityBanker wrote:

reraise preflop, pump flop.

Yeah agree with that

careca

you could get away from it on the turn if your stack was deeper, as its obvious he has the made hand, but I'd be calling with the flush draw with what you have left.

IHAVEACAT

constructively that was ugly preflop reraise the max preflop. on the flop im ramming it woop woop, then on the turn u have to call cos of the price.
your main problem is you didnt play it agg enuf. are u new to omaha? just wondering because i think you understimated the value of your hand preflop and on flop

PokerPissTaker

I don't think your wrong to push on the river your getting good enough odds with only 35 bucks leftand there is around 140 in the pot. But the raise on the flop is a strange one and not reraising preflop is even stranger, I don't like slow playing in omaha, I think its looking to give money away. Maybe you know more about this player that affect your play in this instance

Primewise

Against most opponents who raised preflop, you would be right to pump it on the flop with Aces and the nut flush draw.

In this case the Villain played the hand very well.

You thought that Villain would go nuts postflop after raising regardless of the flop. Villain probably had cleverly established this image and realised that you put him on a bunch of high cards.

Raising with a rundown like 4567 is supposed to represent Aces, so when a low board flops for a massive straight draw they are garraunteed to get action from anybody who can beat AA and KK.

careca

IHAVEACAT wrote:

just wondering because i think you understimated the value of your hand preflop and on flop

Yes preflop, but he bet the pot on the flop, little else he could do.

Killme00

Aces are a good hand in Omaha but not against three players, you have to reraise preflop to narrow down the field.

IHAVEACAT

Primewise wrote:

Raising with a rundown like 4567 is supposed to represent Aces, so when a low board flops for a massive straight draw they are garraunteed to get action from anybody who can beat AA and KK.

i dont think this true. if any1 can beat AA or KK on a board that hits u when u have 4567 ur probly tying or maybe they have a set and any good omaha player is not gonna go crazy with a set on a symetrical board even if they put u on AA or KK because u could easily have AA78ds and flop comes 456 rainbow. i dont think they are guranteed action from ne1 in fact. even a goose isnt gonna go to far.

IHAVEACAT

careca wrote:

Yes preflop, but he bet the pot on the flop, little else he could do.

sorry my mistake i meant on river: ie hesitant to call with nut flush draw when so much invested

eddiehead

the reason i dont reraise preflop is because he generally pushes on most flops when he has raised p/f, i had intended on reraising the pot postflop almost regardless of what came considering his continuation play was always extremely aggressive

BigCityBanker

topnutz wrote:

the reason i dont reraise preflop is because he generally pushes on most flops when he has raised p/f, i had intended on reraising the pot postflop almost regardless of what came considering his continuation play was always extremely aggressive

he is not the only player in the hand - this should be an auto raise preflop with your holding, as Killme00 said - narrow the field.

IHAVEACAT

topnutz wrote:

the reason i dont reraise preflop is because he generally pushes on most flops when he has raised p/f, i had intended on reraising the pot postflop almost regardless of what came considering his continuation play was always extremely aggressive

u cant plan use a head up play against this guy when theres 2 others in pot. it wont work. ur plan to use his agg post flop play against him will be counterfeited by the other people in pot more often than not

DeadParrot

Killme00 wrote:

Aces are a good hand in Omaha but not against three players, you have to reraise preflop to narrow down the field.

100% the right line to take

eddiehead

cheers lads, sound advice,
just put this up here coz this muppet was callin me a donk for potraisin d flop with just AA, duno if he realised i had a more favourable draw than him at the time, but thats beside d point, its clear where i made my mistake n i just wanted 2 c wot ye all thought, cheers

NickyOD

I would never re raise preflop at these stakes unless I could get 1/3 of my stack in there. By re raising you make your hand very transparent. At .50/1 everyone will put you on Aces and call to try and outflop you or bluff you.

IHAVEACAT

NickyOD wrote:

I would never re raise preflop at these stakes unless I could get 1/3 of my stack in there. By re raising you make your hand very transparent. At .50/1 everyone will put you on Aces and call to try and outflop you or bluff you.

if ur not raising preflop ur kicking on flop then?well ur prob calling cos u have nut flush draw. but on rainbow of same cards are u folding on flop?