Minimum Wage question

deisedolly

I am 18 years old and went for an interview for a part-time job yesterday. This will be my second job. When I asked about what I would be getting paid the man told me minimum wage which I prosumed was €8.30 (this is what I got paid in my last job when I was 17) and he said no I would not be getting this.
He said that you only get this minimum wage if you are over 21 with at least a years experience and blah blah blah. The two interviewers said they weren't sure what i would be paid (it is a new place opening in 2 weeks).

So what will I be paid? If its anything under €7 they can feck off!

feylya

Sub-minimum rates

The Minimum Wage Act provides the following sub-minimum rates.

* An employee who is under 18 is entitled to €5.81 per hour (this is 70% of the minimum wage)
* An employee who is in the first year of employment since the age of 18 is entitled to €6.64 per hour (80% of minimum wage)
* An employee who is in the second year of employment since the date of first employment over the age of 18 is entitled to €7.47 per hour (90% of the minimum wage)

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/employment/employment-rights-and-conditions/pay-and-employment/pay_inc_min_wage

Ph3n0m

These are the guidelines for minimum wage

http://www.entemp.ie/employment/rights/minimumwage.htm

anything else is probably illegal - so if you dont get the job - report them

aidan_walsh

CitizensInformation.ie says:

Generally, the amount of pay you receive for working in Ireland is a matter for agreement between you and your employer. These negotiations normally occur when you receive an offer of a job. However under the National Minimum Wage Act 2000 most employees are entitled to a minimum wage. There are sub-minimum rates for some people such as those aged under 18 - see "Rates" section below.

Employee|Minimum hourly rate of pay|% of minimum wage
Experienced adult worker|€8.30|100%
Aged under 18|€5.81|70%
First year from date of first employment aged over 18|€6.64 |80%
Second year from date of first employment aged over 18|€7.47|90%

Edit: Damn, damn, damn

deisedolly

So €6.64 an hour is it?! :eek:
Aww c'mon that's slave labour!

Nala

Kiddo, when I was 18 i was earning €5.41 from McDonalds.

3 years later i am now on 8.73 in a supermarket. wooo.

nesf

deisedolly wrote:

So €6.64 an hour is it?! :eek:
Aww c'mon that's slave labour!

Eh, considering it only applies to people starting out in the workforce not really. You pretty much have zero work experience as an adult and all that and to be fair it's just years of any work experience and not relevant experience which is important.

rick_fantastic

my first job was in supervalu packing shelves on £2.25 an hour back in the day

Beano

rick_fantastic wrote:

my first job was in supervalu packing shelves on £2.25 an hour back in the day

£2.25?? Luxury. I earned £2.11 in Dunkin Donuts a LONG time ago. Mind you i did get free donuts so it evened out.

damnyanks

Not really - they got kicked out for selling dodgy doughnouts didnt they

Beano

damnyanks wrote:

Not really - they got kicked out for selling dodgy doughnouts didnt they

They lost the franchise because they never opened the number of stores they were supposed to.

Tar.Aldarion

Go for a job that will give you 8.30, a lot of places won't know they can pay lower in my experience.

eddiehobbs

Beano wrote:

£2.25?? Luxury. I earned £2.11 in Dunkin Donuts a LONG time ago. Mind you i did get free donuts so it evened out.

Workin in a hotel bout 8 yrs ago i was on £1.60 an hour. Cant imagine there's worse than that

Tar.Aldarion

I used to earn 5c a month in a sweatshop in 1997 making shoes that I couldn't afford.

dulpit

a friend of my sisters is earning $2.25 an hour in the states, so its not that bad... (although she is a waitress and gets tips etc.)

damnyanks

deisedolly wrote:

I am 18 years old and went for an interview for a part-time job yesterday. This will be my second job. When I asked about what I would be getting paid the man told me minimum wage which I prosumed was €8.30 (this is what I got paid in my last job when I was 17) and he said no I would not be getting this.
He said that you only get this minimum wage if you are over 21 with at least a years experience and blah blah blah. The two interviewers said they weren't sure what i would be paid (it is a new place opening in 2 weeks).

So what will I be paid? If its anything under €7 they can feck off!

Just go for the best paid job you can get. These jobs come with no responsability and little thought involved. The fact they pay over 5 euro an hour is good enough for basic work.

I'm not sure what its like now, but usually come summer time the polish students go around europe looking for work. Usually makes it more difficult to get a job as they're happy with that wage.

Attol

I'm pretty sure Dunnes and Tesco will pay all stuff pretty much the same so you'll be getting 8.30 or whatever an hour, possibly a little over.

nesf

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Go for a job that will give you 8.30, a lot of places won't know they can pay lower in my experience.

A lot of places couldn't be bothered checking on everybody and working out what they qualify for in my experience so they pay everyone the standard minimum wage so they won't make any mistakes. But you aren't necessarily entitled to it and that's what is important to remember imho.

mikemac

Around 1997, I got £1.50 per hour collecting trolleys in the local supermarket.
Slave labour I tell ya:mad:

But the owner was named and shamed for having an Ansbacher account and had to pay £2million to the taxman.
Good enough for him

deisedolly

Jesus the woman just rang me and asked me to be a fuppin supervisor! Me a supervisor... HA! But I'll be getting over €9 an hour and loads of hours so I'm a happy camper now

Dord

Congrats!

Jesus Wept

Beano wrote:

£2.25?? Luxury. I earned £2.11 in Dunkin Donuts a LONG time ago. Mind you i did get free donuts so it evened out.

Why don't we have donut shops in Ireland.

Boooooooooooooo

Edit: man, I would murder someone for a nice donut right about now.

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back on topic

nesf wrote:

Eh, considering it only applies to people starting out in the workforce not really. You pretty much have zero work experience as an adult and all that and to be fair it's just years of any work experience and not relevant experience which is important.

with that said, how much experience does anyone need to work a minimum wage job.

I think most, if not all of them require a minimal amount of training, and you probably reach your full potential within days or weeks, rather than months and years.

nesf

The-Rigger wrote:

with that said, how much experience does anyone need to work a minimum wage job.

I think most, if not all of them require a minimal amount of training, and you probably reach your full potential within days or weeks, rather than months and years.

It doesn't matter. People tend to be better workers a few years into working than when they started. It's a justifiable enough reason to differentiate. If they demanded relevant experience I'd agree with you but since it's general it's fair enough imho.

Jesus Wept

nesf wrote:

It doesn't matter. People tend to be better workers a few years into working than when they started. It's a justifiable enough reason to differentiate. If they demanded relevant experience I'd agree with you but since it's general it's fair enough imho.

Yea, I guess they have to offer people extra so they will stay at the job...

nesf

The-Rigger wrote:

Yea, I guess they have to offer people extra so they will stay at the job...

It pretty much comes down to (on an individual business level) what amount you can pay that will get you a sufficient number of sufficiently skilled people. If you are doing a job that literally almost anyone could (and importantly would) do then you can't expect to get a great wage. Some businesses are willing to pay more but expect you to work hard for it (see threads on Lidl etc).

Nala

To the OP- what sort of work is it??

DonJose

deisedolly wrote:

Jesus the woman just rang me and asked me to be a fuppin supervisor! Me a supervisor...

Congrats, it pays to speak English Seroiusly you are probably the only one applying for the job who could speak English.

deisedolly

Nala wrote:

To the OP- what sort of work is it??

In a cinema!
I was talking to them yesterday and they said the floor staff are getting something like €6.80, the only people who will work for that will be 16 year olds. No 18 year olds I know would work for that money when they know they could get more elsewhere.
I'm (as a 'supervisor') getting €9.30 or something...

deisedolly

DonJose wrote:

Congrats, it pays to speak English Seroiusly you are probably the only one applying for the job who could speak English.

Yeah I was thinking that myself. But it really doesn't make much sense because they know I'm going to be going back to college in September and leaving them. I'm getting 'training' in Limerick this weekend and next week and everything ha!
Eejits

Tar.Aldarion

You should be quite happy with that, it's more than I get.

angeldelight

What is the average wage for a part-time job? I was kind of surprised reading this...

The place I worked we started off on 8.50 p/h, then after 3 months could go up to 9 or 10 p/h depending on performance. On top of that was 12% holiday pay to cover bank holidays/Sundays but you could opt not to do them anyway...

When I left I was essentially getting 11.20 per hour...

Saint_Mel

Around 1993/94 I got £1 an hour for delivering leaflets.
I only done it 1 evening as I was helping out a mate cover a large area.
He had it as a regular enough evening job though and recieved £1 an hour.

Daknight

i found out londis only pay 7.76 per hour,imo thats pretty bad.

nesf

angeldelight wrote:

What is the average wage for a part-time job? I was kind of surprised reading this...

The place I worked we started off on 8.50 p/h, then after 3 months could go up to 9 or 10 p/h depending on performance. On top of that was 12% holiday pay to cover bank holidays/Sundays but you could opt not to do them anyway...

When I left I was essentially getting 11.20 per hour...

It completely depends on the kind of work you are doing tbh. Some kinds of work pay more than others for part time.