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Too passive?

  • 11-05-2007 7:05pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭


    Should i be raising here?

    What can i put villian on?
    He's been in 60% of the 20 hands ive been here for.

    Starting a new hand (#548970883)
    Texas Holdem NL $0.10/$0.20 - 2007-05-11 20:01:16 Server
    Table Cape Fear
    Seat 1: Danny84 ( $21.20 )
    Seat 5: fabduping ( $41.60 )
    Seat 6: Mac2603 ( $7.92 )
    Seat 8: Roadsweep87 ( $25.90 )
    Seat 10: alphonseluck ( $53.30 )
    Roadsweep87 posts Small Blind $0.10
    alphonseluck posts Big Blind $0.20
    Dealing cards
    Your cards 8h Qc [Roadsweep87]
    Danny84 folds
    fabduping folds
    Mac2603 folds
    Roadsweep87 raises $0.60
    alphonseluck calls $0.50
    Dealing Flop Qh 9h Tc
    Roadsweep87 checks
    alphonseluck bets $1.40
    Roadsweep87 calls $1.40
    Dealing Turn Qh 9h Tc Qs
    Roadsweep87 checks
    alphonseluck bets $3
    Roadsweep87 calls $3
    Dealing River Qh 9h Tc Qs 7c
    Roadsweep87 checks
    alphonseluck bets $10.20

    Action?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 646 ✭✭✭Gus Ivey


    Should i be raising here?

    What can i put villian on?
    He's been in 60% of the 20 hands ive been here for.

    Action?

    shouldnt raise PF

    he plays a lot of pots so he probley calls raises with ATC in position

    Call the river


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    You played it ok, id definitely call the river. Id usually bet the flop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,165 ✭✭✭DEmeant0r


    Call river. You're ahead of a lot of hands, doubt he has the straight or FH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RoadSweeper


    Is anyone raising the turn?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,887 ✭✭✭Marq


    not as much as I'm leading the flop.
    I think this line is ok.
    Call river.
    Any other info on hands he has shown down?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,513 ✭✭✭RoadSweeper


    Em, he had one showdown with JT. Top pair.

    I was calling the river.

    More looking for advice on flop and turn betting.
    He had KK in the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    You can't really judge much from 20 hands I think everyone has played 60% of 20 hands before.

    How aggressive has he played post flop previously? He seems to be up a bit in this session so assuming he isn't a total donk I don't think he is betting after you check the river without a pretty big hand having seen you call on the turn. He could have a whole load of full houses or KJ he might have a ten but if he does I think he has to check the river as he knows he is only getting called by better hands. Having raised pre-flop what were you looking for on the flop for you to bet? bet $1 on the flop your not hitting more than top pair very often and if he thinkgs your at it raising from the SB your ahead of a whole loads of his range. If your feeling very aggressive check/raise the flop let him know you have a queen and see what he does if he still wants to play then you know that you need some help.

    On the turn I don't mind a check/call if you've raised the flop but as played I think you need to bet or raise to see where you are if you make it $10 here then he's going to let you know if 3 queens is any good. Check/calling has made the river a lot harder now bets and raises would have given you a lot more info. AT, KT and TJ are possible but I think you are behind a lot more times than you are ahead. Did you call and see him flip over J8 or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,810 ✭✭✭✭jimmii


    Wow KK! Didn't see that one coming. I thought about what hands he could have that you beat and wrote off AA and KK totally! He's got himself into a mess trying to be tricky with this hand pre-flop. Once that second queen has come on the turn he's putting you on a ten and trying to get as much out of you on the river as possible. I don't think many people are going to fire a 3rd bullet here with an over pair as the board is pretty good for a load of hands your raising with pre-flop.


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