.10/.25 Ft Qq

dvdfan

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
4 players

Stack sizes:
UTG: $32.30
dvdfan: $48.45
SB: $25.60
BB: $53.10

Pre-flop: (4 players) dvdfan is Button with qc qh
UTG folds, dvdfan raises to $0.85, SB folds, BB calls $0.6 (pot was $1.2).

Flop: 4d 3h 2h ($1.8, 2 players)
BB bets $2, dvdfan calls $2 (pot was $3.8).

Turn: tc ($5.8, 2 players)
BB bets $5, dvdfan calls $5 (pot was $10.8).

River: td ($15.8, 2 players)
BB bets $13, dvdfan ????

Villain is 25/18

phantom_lord

probably flopped a set and is bringing you to value town. I'd be suprised if u were good.

Chucky the tree

Why havent you shoved the flop or turn? or is that not the done thing at these levels?

Sirtoyou

as played by you it seems you got no info on opps hand.
a raise of his flop bet lets you know cheaper if hes serious about his hand
having said that it still looks like a call because you still beat a lot of his betting range ie. busted flush draw/st8 draw or overpair.
you could be facing a st8 or a set but you have to pay to see it.

Sir

valor

call

dvdfan

Chucky the tree wrote:

Why havent you shoved the flop or turn? or is that not the done thing at these levels?

Didnt think i should be shoving the flop here, theres €4 in the pot, what hand is going to call an all in that i beat, Flush Draw, TT or JJ maybe and thats about it but im likely to fold them out too. KK and AA and sets call.

I taught about shoving on the turn but he seemed a decent player and i couldnt see very many hands here that i beat that call a shove, maybe AT but id more than likely fold out KT- so i wanted to keep him in the hand and get another bet out of him.

When the river came i was happy no flush came and it was a strong bet, i knew i was either miles ahead i.e busted flush or miles behind AT or set. Can many people find a turn shove here or am i right in thinking i flush out the hands i beat?

valor

shoving at any point in this hand would be terrible

bubbleking

i call here like you said its either a set or a busted flush draw for some reason i think its more likely the latter...but im an optimist

shoutman

Word to the wise, stay away from micro states on Fulltilt. I found it was absolutley horrible, it was the first site I played cash properly on, and on every other site the fish:nit ratio is a thousand times better.

dvdfan

Anyway i called an he had a set of 2's, taught a set here might bet a little less if he wanted a call, and i taught the bigger bet might be because he missed the flush.

Ive played 9 ring on FT and i found them tight as nits but i went back playing 6 tables just to respond to josh at poker ace hud on a bug i reported using his software. Ive found the tables great but i could be just running good. Im up $150 after 3 days just playing for 2-3 hours a day. I just so love the software and the resizeable tables plus i can mine easily and use poker ace hud which even though people will argue against it, i think its a massive help to have stats on people even at this level.

Ill keep playing until it changes but im not even winning just on big hands im stacking with 2 pair and overcards alot.

phantom_lord

dvdfan wrote:

Anyway i called an he had a set of 2's, taught a set here might bet a little less if he wanted a call, and i taught the bigger bet might be because he missed the flush.

He overbet the pot on the flop, and bet close to pot on the turn an river, that's almost always a super strong hand, he's not betting a draw so strongly.

dvdfan

phantom_lord wrote:

probably flopped a set and is bringing you to value town. I'd be suprised if u were good.

Yeah you were pretty spot on there Phantom

jimmii

Raise it to 6 on the flop when he calls you know one pair is probably no good if he leads again on the turn. I doubt a player with a draw is going to get that out of line at this level.

cooker3

I think check calling is better but I probably fold turn or river. His af figure would have been nice to know, think thats pretty important.