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2 bigga pots.

  • 10-05-2007 12:07pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭


    Early stages of 100 freezeout. Villain is unknown but seems fairly amateurish so far.

    Blinds 75/150. I have 7k. 4 limpers. I make it 700 in BB with AsKd.

    All call. Flop is Ad 7s 3h. I bet 1.5k. Villain in ep pushes all in. Folded to me. He covers.

    Cash game.

    I have ~350euro. Blinds 1euro 3euro. LAG makes it 15 from UTG+1. 1 caller. I elect to call with AhQh from the cutoff. BB calls. (60 euro)

    Flop is Qd 10h 10s. Checked to me. I bet 40. Lag flat calls. (140)

    Turn is the 9h. Villain checks. I make it 50. Villain calls. (240)

    River is the Kh. Villain pushes all in. Has me covered.....

    Action on me


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭HiCloy


    1. Raise more preflop.

    Call now. You have 4.8k left, the pot will be 16k if you win, odds are too good.

    2. Check the turn behind (of you could just check the flop). Betting 50 into 140 isn't great anyways. River is tough but with the backdoor ace high flush I probably call, mainly cause I'm a bit of a station. He could have a straight or a worse flush


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    1. how much has he got?
    2. check the turn. call now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭Marq


    First one is a pretty easy call against a villian as you have described.

    Any other info on the villian in hand two? His line is quite strange: check-call, check-call, push! I probably call but I'm a station.
    I don't like the turn bet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Lissavalley


    1. how much has he got?


    He covers me but not by much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    I call hand 1 considering description of villian.

    Hand 2, check turn and I think I fold river seeing as every single draw has hit.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 780 ✭✭✭Captain Tom


    call both.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭HiCloy


    cooker3 wrote:

    Hand 2, check turn and I think I fold river seeing as every single draw has hit.

    Every draw has hit but you realise we've backdoored the A high flush?

    I still think we're behind a lot tho


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,698 ✭✭✭semibluff


    cooker - fold river? apart from the "full house draw?!" youve the nuts draw.

    Chack turn def, and prob pay hiim off on river (but you would have kept the pot smaller and it wouldnt have been too bad), as played call river and pray, you could be facing KJ!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    HiCloy wrote:
    Every draw has hit but you realise we've backdoored the A high flush draw?

    I still think we're behind a lot tho

    I was wondering why everyone was saying call with just a pair of queens :o


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Beware of a7 and a3 in first hand but it is up to your reading of the situation to call or not.

    Call second


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭DeadParrot


    As tar Said Ace rag is possible but still a call

    hand 2: call, unfortunate if he has the house


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭bubbleking


    hand 1: belongs in the bad beat sticky with his sh!ty 2 pair

    hand 2: meh call but your probably beat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭Hitchhiker's Guide to...


    Call Hand 1? Not a chance! He has pushed with more people to play. I can't see TPTK been ahead here enough of the time. He certainly isn't scared. This is a 100euro game, not the jackpot 20euro donkfest. Surely you have to give the pusher some credit for realising that Lissavalley has a very high A (and yet, not being scared of this)?

    Don't think i'd ever call here without a good knowledge of what the pusher is like as a player.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,646 ✭✭✭cooker3


    Call Hand 1? Not a chance! He has pushed with more people to play. I can't see TPTK been ahead here enough of the time. He certainly isn't scared. This is a 100euro game, not the jackpot 20euro donkfest. Surely you have to give the pusher some credit for realising that Lissavalley has a very high A (and yet, not being scared of this)?

    Don't think i'd ever call here without a good knowledge of what the pusher is like as a player.

    So you don't think someone do this with AQ, AJ then
    Why can't lisa have Kings or queens here or even AT, AJ herself and villian thinks she can fold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    i would check the flop in hand #1, there are no draws and we are either miles ahead or behind, and stacks are shallow enough we dont need to bet flop to get all in if we want

    #2 definitely check the turn, getting check raised here would be a disaster and we cant really hope to get value from a worse hand on 3 streets


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭sikes


    Id shove hand1 preflop rather than make that raise. Whether I would raise bigger or just push would depend on the game.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,110 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    Beware of a7 and a3 in first hand but it is up to your reading of the situation to call or not.

    Call second
    Actually, on the second, I imagine he is playing a house.
    What did they have?
    q10 I guess in the second hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,080 ✭✭✭HiCloy


    valor wrote:
    i would check the flop in hand #1, there are no draws and we are either miles ahead or behind, and stacks are shallow enough we dont need to bet flop to get all in if we want

    I would check the flop if heads up but 4 handed I don't like it
    Call Hand 1? Not a chance! He has pushed with more people to play. I can't see TPTK been ahead here enough of the time. He certainly isn't scared. This is a 100euro game, not the jackpot 20euro donkfest. Surely you have to give the pusher some credit for realising that Lissavalley has a very high A (and yet, not being scared of this)?

    The OP described him as being amateurish. You'd be surprised how many similar players would make it to a €100 freezeout....is this in the westwood?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 162 ✭✭Lissavalley


    1st hand I folded. Felt at the time he had 2 pair.

    2nd hand I called, Villain had pocket queens giving him a flopped house. Should have checked turned and been a bit more wary when a LAG is in check call mode.


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