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Door frames installed b4 or after plastering?

  • 09-05-2007 9:19pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭


    hello all,

    looking for opinions on this one, as my first fix electrics and plumbing is
    now completed i intend to install oak door frames

    would you install them before or after the plastering is carried out?
    i reckon wait until the plastering is completed otherwise i'd have a crap time
    in trying to get the stains off them

    what you think?


    thanks in advance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    Get your chippie to install Temporary frames made from OSB board or similar as it's cheap. Plaster to these, then remove them and install your oak frames.
    No Stains!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭leex


    I have pine doorframes in my house. The frames were fitted pre-plastering. We put many coats of sealer on the frames before plastering. Any plaster etc simply washes off. Don't know what the story with oak is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,146 ✭✭✭aaronm13


    Same as leex,once the wood is sealed you should be fine.You could also use masking tape to cover around the frame.If he is half decent he will take a bit more care as they are oak but then again they are a filthy bunch.Getting temporary fames would cost double,I don't think many a carpenter would be over joyed at having to do it,I know I wouldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34 hjsimpson


    If the frames were red deal or white deal then i would say seal well and fit before plastering....but with oak or hardwood definitely fit temp. frames until after plastering is finished......or more importantly until the finished concrete floors are in......wheelbarrows and oak door frames dont mix well.
    Skimcoat is inclined to blacken oak and teak even when cleaned off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭De_man


    Thanks everyone

    i'll stick to the temporary door frames, made using the OSB boards, they won't take me long to make up, thanks Avsn1s,

    hjsimpson i had even forgotten about the wheel barrows!!


    thanks again to everyone for the replies



    a pint of plain is yer only man


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 5,126 Mod ✭✭✭✭kadman


    hjsimpson wrote:
    If the frames were red deal or white deal then i would say seal well and fit before plastering....but with oak or hardwood definitely fit temp. frames until after plastering is finished......or more importantly until the finished concrete floors are in......wheelbarrows and oak door frames dont mix well.
    Skimcoat is inclined to blacken oak and teak even when cleaned off.



    Totally agree with hjsimpson, water , steel , plaster, will stain your oak frames black. This staining is next to impossible to remove. Forget about many coats of sealer first, and washing of plaster residue. Oak does not like water, plaster ect.

    hjsimpson gets my vote

    kadman


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 390 ✭✭tradesman


    Whatever you do - "DO NOT FIT THEM UNTIL THE HEAVY DIRTY WORK IS FINISHED" Get the picture? Sorry for the late posting. Just thought i'd reinforce everyone elses view!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 390 ✭✭tradesman


    Sorry forgot to mention. Only fit them when plaster has dried out. Fit when you want the carpenter to start 2nd fix


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 552 ✭✭✭De_man


    thanks tradesman & kadman

    i'll most definitely be waiting until 2nd fix...:)


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