Jackpot thursday tourney hand

TommyGunne

Was wondering bout this hand... thought that here would be the place to find some advice!
Thursday tourney of the Jackpot(€20FO.)
59 runners, at time of hand down to roughly 35. Blinds at 100-200.
Villain 1 is TAG, is capable of making folds, and i have a few good lines on him so am not afraid to play pots with him, stack roughly 14,000(tourney big stack.)
Villain 2 weak passive, was talking to him at break and is new to the game, happy to have got this far(outlasted his more experienced friends, now here on his own and doesnt seem that comfortable staying in casino much longer.) Stack roughly 3,000.
SB and BB calling lot of PF raises with marginal holdings. Both medium stacked.
Hero also TAG, trying not to play oop. Seems to be seen as a person to try take advantage of weakness.(Think Villain 1 thinks this, not sure about the others.)Stack roughly 9,000, maybe 4th or 5th chip stack in tourney.

Villain 1 raises UTG to 600. Folded round to me in CO. Pick up 10dJd. Cold call(first mistake?) fully expecting button, SB and BB to call, which they do.
Pot now 2,400.
Flop QdQx9d, giving me straight flush draw.
Checked to Villain 1, who leads out for 800. Hero raises to 2,000. Button calls leaving behind roughly three or four hundred.
Both blinds fold. Villain 1 quickly ships 'em into the pot. Hero calls, Button calls off his last couple hundred.
Advice???? Should this have been played differently or at all???? The hands been stuck in my head!!!

earthworms

i wouldnt call with this hand tbh either raise or fold this late in a tourney. But it is a damn nice hand! Wouldnt put my tourney life on the liine with this draw either. Very tough decision after the flop, but i dont think you played it too badly

bubbleking

raise pf

jam the flop.

phantom_lord

why not just call the 800? he's giving u ridiculous odds to call.

i think this is probably a fold to the shove.

Mellor

I think you should of flat called the 800,
from the description, you are getting them all in with the raise, you have an excellant draw, but you want to keep the weaker hands in the pot as right no you have air, and need to improve, flat call the flop bet, he'll lead out 1,200 on turn, smooth again, and you will know if you made your hand, you should easily still get your value from the players, the more in the hand the better, and you can get away from it with 6.5k if needed, 30BBs is very playable in this game

Goodluck2me

Mellor wrote:

I think you should of flat called the 800,
from the description you are getting them all of the hand with the raise, you have an excellant draw, but you want to keep the weaker hands in the pot as right no you have air, and need to improve, flat call the flop bet, he'll lead out 1,200 on turn, smooth again, and you will know if you made your hand, you should easily still get your value from the players, the more in the hand the better, and you can get away from it with 6.5k if needed, 30BBs is very playable in this game

i dont like th above advice. i think the hand was played well, although if you thought the others were calling then i prefer a re-raise preflop as you wont have position otherwise. As played i just fold, but played well. the guy likely has a Queen or higher flush draw and his line is pretty strong so you could be drawing quite thin.

Mellor

I think that his raise accomplishes nothing, from the description of the players they weren't going anywere, he stuck in a third of his stack, if he wants to get it in get it in now, still dont think that great as the 15 outs you think you have could be alot less, maybe 10

normaly with a OESFD i think that line is good, but the paired board really changes the odds of winning,
flat calling is +EV, clearly
raising reduces this value, as it does in any situation were you are behind and dont increase chances of taking hand down there and then, which from the description of the other player, and because of the game played, I believe to be the case.

Anyway, long story short, fold preflop, you said the villian was TAG, your behind here and possibly are double dominated with 3 players to act

phantom_lord

why do u think raising is better than calling, joe?


i agree fully what mellor said fwiw,