Motorised system installers

dxhound2005

Hi

This is my first post on Boards. I am thinking of getting a motorised system but I cant find any installers and I wouldnt be able to do it myself. I'm in Dundalk so have tried North as well without success. Did everyone here with a motor set it up themselves? I am thinking about a Technomate 1500 receiver and 90cm dish from http://www.satellitesuperstore.com. Anyone dealt with them? They seem to think 36 volt motors are required, any opinions?

Thanks in advance
Paddy

watty

In a situation where dish is sheltered you can get away with regular Motek Diseqc with a light weight 95cm to 110cm Triax.

If it's a professional dish, 90cm or larger, or heavy dish, or bigger than 110cm any kind, or exposed then you do need the 36V systems.

The basic Diseqc is slow and can wear out quicker. It's a good recommendation. The Professional installer I know would only do 36V ..

My ordinary Diseqc has a 110cm dish, but it is very sheltered, even so it's not there a year yet...

Eurorunner

If your going to opt for a motorised system, I would suggest that you do it yourself. I had setup the same myself a few years ago. When I moved house last year, I was in a rush to get TV into the house so that my tenants didnt go without. The guy didnt setup properly. Even though he had better gear (proper signal finder, etc) and experience, it was taking him forever to set it up.
All I wanted was for him to tune in the extremes - 30*W and one on the opposite end - and I would be happy. He couldnt do this (turned out he was basing the midpoint on hotbird!
Even if they do get it setup for you, unless the site is very well sheltered, your going to have it move on you at least once a year (and probably more). You will need to know how to reset - or else you'll be spending a fortune on these guys.

my 2c

the_wick

Hi, I am recieveing astra1,2 and hotbird with my 80cm motorised dish from dublin. Can't get any other satellites I think I just got lucky as I did not set it up properly. If I point dish facing due south ( have no compass so have to be approx) and I get a signal from telecon 5W will this be enough to get the rest of my satellites using usals, can I even get a signal from 5w (had a very quick scan couldnt find it) with an 80cm dish and if not what is this best satellite I can aim for. Help would be much appreciated
cheers

tapfit2004

the_wick wrote:

Hi, I am recieveing astra1,2 and hotbird with my 80cm motorised dish from dublin. Can't get any other satellites I think I just got lucky as I did not set it up properly. If I point dish facing due south ( have no compass so have to be approx) and I get a signal from telecon 5W will this be enough to get the rest of my satellites using usals, can I even get a signal from 5w (had a very quick scan couldnt find it) with an 80cm dish and if not what is this best satellite I can aim for. Help would be much appreciated
cheers

you should get a very good signal from 5w on the french channels, use lyngsat to get the frequency's. just getting a signal at 5w will not guarentee you will be right at the each end of the arc. ou may need to adjust the elevation of both the motor and the dish at each end to get it right. if you have poor signals at the ends of the arc try moving the dish slightly up or down on say 30w or 42e and see if this improves the signal. try looking at page 9 on the manual for this motor (sat control motor that i use) you can find it on this page. sadoun.c0m/Sat/Products/SATCONTROL/SaTracer-3SW-SM3D22-Satcontrol-HH-diseqc-MOTOR.htm

the_wick

thanks for that info tapfit2004

Zeppi

I live on the south east side Co Carlow and my setup is 80cm aluminum dish and Motek diseq motor, I can receive from 42 east to 30 west with no problems the only two problems that I have is some transponders on the 7west(nilesat) and very low signal on 1 West (thor) but I was aware that I would have some problems with these two birdies.

When installing the motor make sure that the stand or metal pipe is leveled with a spirit level, then follow the instructions that are posted with the motor.

rgds
Zeppi

dxhound2005

Thanks everyone for your input.

By chance today I came across an installer in the North East who says he can do it. There may be people reading this who want to know more but I will hold back until I see how it turns out and if he is willing to have his details given here. It could be a while before I get around to getting it done.

christoricus

Hi how did this installer work out?

Galway

36v motors are the best set up for windy locations, and much faster than Diseqc motors as they are powered independently from the receiver. Sat Superstore are good but dont talk to them about Diseqc motors, 36V is their speciality. David there knows his stuff and i s very helpful.

johnnyboy4711

Obtain First get, 1 degree west BBC World News (in clear) go to satalite 30- Hispasat. fine tune.go back to 1. degree west. then to 19 degrees finaly go to 28 degrees.(Astra) In laymans language fine tune verticles to each pont until the dish arcs between 30 & 28 satisfacory. All other sats will then be easily located. To stop my dish moving in High winds etc once tuned I put a logish bolt through through the dish bracked and the pole. Locking both together. I have had no probs.

this is what i have done also and have no probs!
main thing is to find south 1st(bbc world on 1degE on thor).
takes a few hours to get it right up a ladder with a wrench and a friend in the sittingroom to tell you when you get thor on 1deg west,the just lock it in and set your limits east and west on you TM 1500 CI+(usually 30 degrees eaither side)
and scan for channels and your away in a hack!
all the best
johnnyboy4711

Forza milan

christoricus

Am looking for someone to align a Sat for me in the north dublin area, satellite is up and working just just need it to be aligned. Specifically for digitalb sat

johnnyboy4711

i had dgitalb for a year all worked fine until their footie changed transponder at christmas then for the life of me i could not get it back so paid 1 year sub for 6 months sport,not too pleased!!!
anyway its not bad i suppose if your sure you can get it!
If you have bbc world on thor then you know that your on the arc for all the sats,if you dont have it then you wont get digitalb until you go trickin about with it as mentioned above!
best of luck!
john

dxhound2005

Christoricus

I never got round to getting the gear but I'm still intending to later on. The installer is in Tullyallen Drogheda so he might do your area. If you want I will contact him and ask but I dont want to give his details here yet like I said before.

Johnnyboy you have me nearly convinced that I could give it a go myself but I'm still doubtful.

conax

dxhound2005 wrote:

Johnnyboy you have me nearly convinced that I could give it a go myself but I'm still doubtful.

Go on give it a go, the satisfaction factor of doing it yourself is it's own reward. Follow "johnnyboy" instructions also remember the two golden rules ( a vertical mounting pole, and never adjust the lattitude setting once its set)

yellabelly

I would be interested to know how sheltered a Diseqc motorized dish should be. I am having to move my dish to a more exposed spot at the back of the house. Are we just talking about avoiding very exposed windy positions at maybe high altitude or coastal areas? I'm none of these and have trees and houses to the south and west.

watty

you don't sound too exposed.

dxhound2005

See my original post.

I put a similar post on another forum and I was surprised to get an answer a few weeks ago from Kevin in Lifford. He says it's OK to give his e mail address here and he is available to supply and fit systems North and South.

effectivepc@eircom.net

He supplied and fitted a TM-5200 D USB, TM 2200+ motor and Triax 1.1 metre dish with Inverto 0.2 dB LNB. It's up about a month now and everything is working fine. I have nothing to compare with but the price seemed fair to me and I would suggest anyone like me who needs an installer could get in touch with him.

pelisor2000

i done one inst..for NAVA..ask him if is happy

MD-GK

I'm using an Fortec Star receiver, motor and 90cm dish. When setting it up it was very awkward to find due south cause the compass wouldn't stay steady, etc. Then I thought of another method which thankfully has worked (this may work for anyone who has the same problem or who doesn't have a compass):

1. As already has been said, ensure that your bracket is square, both horizontally and vertically.
2. Get your latitude and longtitude position (do a google) and set the motor and dish elevation angle accordingly (the instructions that came with motor helped me here).
3. Before attaching the dish to the motor motor set the turn angle on the motor to the location of a particular satellite (I used Astra 19E so I turned the tube to point at 19E on the scale thats on the motor).
4. Attatch the dish on the motor, make sure you attach it square with the center line on the tube.
5. Attach to the bracket and turn the motor body (not the tube angle) on the bracket until you lock on to your chosen satellite - therefore the motor will now be pointing at due south so you can turn the tube to whatever satellite you're looking for.

I'm currently picking up 7 satellites from 10E to 30E (the house blocks the view when turning to the west).

This may or may not be of use to anyone as you may have different systems that don't have scales marked on the motor, etc, or you may find my instuctions confusing (sorry!).

Tony

johnnyboy4711 wrote: »

Obtain First get, 1 degree west BBC World News (in clear)

You have done well to get all those sats but I should point out that the satellite nearest to true south for Ireland is 5w as we are west of the greenwich zero degree line.