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What mistakes were made, who made them and when.

  • 04-05-2007 1:09pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,287 ✭✭✭✭


    This a hand I witnessed and I have thought a few times of posting it but refrained because maybe it's just not very interesting but it's been bugging me for so long I have to.

    blinds 75/150

    EP 15k

    CO 14k

    EP is an exp tourney player but I have no idea on his results I just know he plays a lot of them, I've seen him call a big raise OOP with KJh shortly before this hand.

    CO is normally fairly lose PF and agressive and his 4th/5th st play is usually very good and aggresive.

    EP makes it 600

    CO calls with AQo

    Flop 842r

    EP bets 600

    CO called

    Turn

    4

    check check

    river

    7

    check check

    CO throws over AQ before EP shows his hand and EP mucks.

    What mistakes were made, who made them and when.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Ep bet 150 too much preflop and too small on the flop, but these are only minor mistakes. I dont think either one did anything wrong. The CO should of waited for EP to show his hand perhaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    ntlbell wrote:
    This a hand I witnessed and I have thought a few times of posting it but refrained because maybe it's just not very interesting but it's been bugging me for so long I have to.

    blinds 75/150

    EP 15k

    CO 14k

    EP is an exp tourney player but I have no idea on his results I just know he plays a lot of them, I've seen him call a big raise OOP with KJh shortly before this hand.

    CO is normally fairly lose PF and agressive and his 4th/5th st play is usually very good and aggresive.

    EP makes it 600

    CO calls with AQo

    Flop 842r

    EP bets 600

    CO called

    Turn

    4

    check check

    river

    7

    check check

    CO throws over AQ before EP shows his hand and EP mucks.

    What mistakes were made, who made them and when.


    pf is standard.


    weak bet by ep on the flop giving co 3 to 1.

    co calls flop which is fine.



    i bet the turn 90% of the time as ep's flop bet and turn check reek of weakness.

    if hes the type of player who checks trips or better, co fold to a turn raise.



    no mistakes, maybe missed opportunities


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,450 ✭✭✭Gholimoli


    yeah i dont see any big mistakes here either.
    i mean you can argue that CO could bet the turn after being checked too or to a lesser extent the river but this would depend alot on the conditions of the table and how these two have been playing etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,895 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    other than betting too much pf, and too little on the flop, it seems fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,287 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    Mr.Plough wrote:
    pf is standard.


    weak bet by ep on the flop, giving you 3 to 1.

    co calls flop which is fine.



    when ep checks the turn, why dont you bet? whats your plan for the hand when you call on the flop? are you only calling to hit?

    i bet the turn 90% of the time as his flop bet and turn check reek of weakness.

    if hes the type of player who checks trips or better, fold to a turn raise.


    and based on this he doesnt seem like an expert player (ep), i could be wrong though

    I'm not the CO so I can't answer your questions.

    I wasn't involved in the hand.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    sorry only breezed through it. edited


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    I think PF was OK, I'd mix it up between 2.5 - 4x BB from time to time, it's 100BB's deep so I think it's fine.

    I think only betting 600 on the flop was pretty bad though, I'd make it at least 800 - 1,000 although if these small Cont. bets were working in the past maybe it was OK, but I'd have my standard C. bet a bit higher as a matter of course.


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