Im feeling brave today

Gholimoli

After Marq’s post in LL’s well yesterday few people expressed interest for their play to be criticised by those who have played with them a lot.
While I understand this can be very constructive if done in a good way, I also think it can turn quit ugly.
But what the hell as the title says im feeling brave today and also to keep IanMc happy and amused I thought I get this started and hell if it gets embarrassing then I will just give up boards.
So folks here is your chance:
Tear me apart.
Enjoy

P.S I know I will regret this in 5 minutes

Jesus Wept

Gholimoli wrote:

Tear me apart.
Enjoy

P.S I know I will regret this in 5 minutes

You're a terrible person.

eoghan104

This is a good idea. Are we all gona start different threads for this individually or express our interest in being criticised in this thread?

Gholi played very little with you so I cant comment.

El Stuntman

your eyes are suspiciously close together

BigCityBanker

I havent logged many hands with you but I do remember one session where I reckoned you were too prone to bloating pots oop with what at showdown appeared to be marginal hands. That said, this session was just before your retirement.

This is a great idea and i for one will be putting myself up for a slapping in due course.

Ste05

eoghan104 wrote:

This is a good idea. Are we all gona start different threads for this individually or express our interest in being criticised in this thread?

Gholi played very little with you so I cant comment.

Assuming this goes well, I'll set up a thread where people can express an interest in doing one of these and then similarly to the "Well's" we can have some order to them and not just have loads sprouting up. So we can keep nominations til then and let this thread develop as it should.

Best of Luck Gholi....

Solksjaer

IMHO!
When the blinds go up and you are in an SB-BB situation with max 2 limpers. . You overplay your hands and committ yourself to pots with very marginal holdings. I base this on only two or three times I've played at your table plus the IO exit hand. One of the times I'm sure I'd have got you all in with an A4. I was very close to doing it.
It's a leak because it gets you into trouble unnecessarily.

(probably a leak of mine also)

Bandana boy

Gman
I will be doing the same in the future so you will not have to wait long for revenge
I only have a couple of hundred hands with you but here is my take on it

obviously one of your stengths is your aggresion but i think you need to temper it a little
I have seen you bet 3 streets with very marginal hands and then your suprise when players start looking you up is in it self suprising
When i first started playing against you i thought that was the idea

You dont seem to know when your just not going to be able to win a hand and while you correctly work out to win a hand you have to bet ( ie you have no showdown value )
I have seen you try to push complete calling stations of a better hand

I am not sure i have ever seen you c bet get called and then check fold there is always more to come from you

If a flop is checked to you you seem to bet out every time this becomes quite transparent

I think while your pre flop card selection is usually quite strong i do feel you overvalues A rag and small pocket pairs in raised pots

you never give lags any credit for a hand and I have seen you pay of what looked very obvious made hands to me

I think like myself you need to practise better tilt control
I have been at a table where you are playing well and winning then you lose a hand maybe a bad beat or maybe just a cooler or coinflip and then you seem to meltdown


oh and as an afterthought
your spelling is atrocious and I hear your a bad dancer :-)

ocallagh

argh wrote a long reply and lost it, will edit this later

Gholimoli

Bandana boy wrote:

Gman




I think like myself you need to practise better tilt control
I have been at a table where you are playing well and winning then you lose a hand maybe a bad beat or maybe just a cooler or coinflip and then you seem to meltdown

if it wasnt for this and my none existent BR managemtn i would be a rich man now.

thanks for taking the time man.

ollyk1

It's been quite a while since I've played with you Eshan but over the time I was playing with you (in tournies) you had improved your tilt control and pulled back on your aggression quite a bit.

However I felt at that time you still hadn't fully adjusted to manipulating your image especially after some loose hands had been shown down by you, you didn't seem to be prepared to play a bit tighter (at middle to late stages in reasonably strucutred games) for a few orbits hoping to get paid off on a bigger hand.

Boredom, tiredness and tilt are your enemies from what I've seen so discipline and game selection are the keys to poker profitability for you I feel.

I can't comment on your cash play having not played any with you.

P.S. I thought I suggested the anti well and now all you kids are trying to jump me in the queue for a grilling!! pfffft :eek:

ianmc38

The first line of Fast Train by Van Morrison/Solomon Burke comes to mind

ocallagh

You need to adapt better to bad players at your table. You have a very logical mind, but others don't! You expect players to make the right decision and preflop this can result in disaster for you. I take the hand in Malahide as an example. You pushed for 15BBs or something with junk, and were called in two spots (one was AA unlickily), but the other was by K6. I was surprised you pushed when it was clear you had very little FE with that guy in the pot.

The above is an extreme example, but I think others have touched on the same point. In less extreme examples, this disregard for your opponents ability to make mistakes preflop results in you getting 10%+ of your stack in preflop with marginal holdings against calling stations, regularly OOP too. You then try and make up for this on later streets which sometimes works well, but again against the wrong type of opponent it results in you busting or losing a lot of chips.

This is in stark contrast to your post flop play which I think is excellent, and your preflop play is also excellent against the right opponents. That hand against Norman is a fine example of this. You were 100% focused and made your move on the river when there was no gamble left in the hand against an opponent who likes to gamble preflop and on the flop.

Also, you try to win too many pots. I think you need to learn to give up after your cbet gets called. Against decent opponents you don't gain much respect because you try to win so many pots. I think you need to be a little more selective, gain a bit more patience, and against bad players adopt a more ABC style.

While this is a long post, it by no means there are a lot of things wrong with your game. I think they are all very easy to fix too

AmarilloFats

Do you always call off 15% of your stack pre OOP with 78...in a cash game SE and bust my KK!!??On a 78X flop!?
What about after a raise a a rr getting it all in with 55 to bust my KK in the fitz EOM..
Oh sorry that was LLyod.!:D

ianmc38

From my limited experience with you in cash games, I think you pump too many hands from the blinds. I think preflop is defintiely the worst part of your game. Postflop you play quite well but are a little too aggro IMO, trying to take down every pot you're involved in even when 1 or 2 players are obviously interested in it too!

On the whole I think you're a good player with a lot of potential, but in cash games, I think you get a little bit of FPS, play overly aggressive at times and bloat too many pots oop with marginal holdings. My 2c.

Gholimoli

ocallagh wrote:

You need to adapt better to bad players at your table. You have a very logical mind, but others don't! You expect players to make the right decision and preflop this can result in disaster for you. I take the hand in Malahide as an example. You pushed for 15BBs or something with junk, and were called in two spots (one was AA unlickily), but the other was by K6. I was surprised you pushed when it was clear you had very little FE with that guy in the pot.

The above is an extreme example, but I think others have touched on the same point. In less extreme examples, this disregard for your opponents ability to make mistakes preflop results in you getting 10%+ of your stack in preflop with marginal holdings against calling stations, regularly OOP too. You then try and make up for this on later streets which sometimes works well, but again against the wrong type of opponent it results in you busting or losing a lot of chips.

This is in stark contrast to your post flop play which I think is excellent, and your preflop play is also excellent against the right opponents. That hand against Norman is a fine example of this. You were 100% focused and made your move on the river when there was no gamble left in the hand against an opponent who likes to gamble preflop and on the flop.

Also, you try to win too many pots. I think you need to learn to give up after your cbet gets called. Against decent opponents you don't gain much respect because you try to win so many pots. I think you need to be a little more selective, gain a bit more patience, and against bad players adopt a more ABC style.

While this is a long post, it by no means there are a lot of things wrong with your game. I think they are all very easy to fix too

cheers Nial i agree with all of it,as OllieK said more often than not its due to bordem &tierdness but none the less they are all the reasons for my **** live tourney record .

Gholimoli

ianmc38 wrote:

From my limited experience with you in cash games, I think you pump too many hands from the blinds. I think preflop is defintiely the worst part of your game. Postflop you play quite well but are a little too aggro IMO, trying to take down every pot you're involved in even when 1 or 2 players are obviously interested in it too!

On the whole I think you're a good player with a lot of potential, but in cash games, I think you get a little bit of FPS, play overly aggressive at times and bloat too many pots oop with marginal holdings. My 2c.

that's all in the first line of that song?

ty kind sir(let me know if you are playing tomorrow)

ditpoker

ocallagh wrote:

You need to adapt better to bad players at your table. You have a very logical mind, but others don't! You expect players to make the right decision and preflop this can result in disaster for you.

this was pretty much what i was going to say in this thread. I've played very few times with you, but i can think of 2 occasions where after a hand with a donk you havent been happy. The last time i think was one of the SE 200 deepstack when you three bet at an Axx board and some fella went all in with A-rag. The way the hand played out i think maybe 90% of boards players would have folded the a-rag to you but that chap in the hand was NEVER folding. (that said, maybe 90% of boards players would call cos they know you'd three bet an Axx flop with air!!) basically... what ocallagh said!

Also, you're clearly a competent winning player so you must be doing something right. and if you never got caught stealing you'd be doing something wrong.

LuckyLloyd

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AmarilloFats

HA..Sorry Lloyd.
Good recall. we had a chin wag on the stairs over a cocktail sausage at the break.
and it's only recently( i don't play live much) I realised thata you was luckyLlyod..WP sir.

Gholimoli

ditpoker wrote:

this was pretty much what i was going to say in this thread. I've played very few times with you, but i can think of 2 occasions where after a hand with a donk you havent been happy. The last time i think was one of the SE 200 deepstack when you three bet at an Axx board and some fella went all in with A-rag. The way the hand played out i think maybe 90% of boards players would have folded the a-rag to you but that chap in the hand was NEVER folding. (that said, maybe 90% of boards players would call cos they know you'd three bet an Axx flop with air!!) basically... what ocallagh said!

Also, you're clearly a competent winning player so you must be doing something right. and if you never got caught stealing you'd be doing something wrong.

i remeber that hand well Jeff,
the dude sa nuts in fairness and i think any one who had a clue about poker would have folded there whether they knew me or not but i do agree that it was my fault for making the move against some 1 i didnt know at all.
what happend was that i open raised with KQs to 600 from UTG.
he called in MP and cardshark called from his blind.
flop came A 3 4 r and i bet 1K.
he made it 3K and Reggie folded and i made it 8K and he pushed and i folded and he showed A9 .

ianmc38

Gholimoli wrote:

i remeber that hand well Jeff,
the dude sa nuts in fairness and i think any one who had a clue about poker would have folded there whether they knew me or not but i do agree that it was my fault for making the move against some 1 i didnt know at all.
what happend was that i open raised with KQs to 600 from UTG.
he called in MP and cardshark called from his blind.
flop came A 3 4 r and i bet 1K.
he made it 3K and Reggie folded and i made it 8K and he pushed and i folded and he showed A9 .

I'd have instacalled you with 22.

Gholimoli

ianmc38 wrote:

I'd have instacalled you with 22.

Well you must have made a similar call earlier that night cuz when this hand happened you were busto.

ianmc38

Gholimoli wrote:

Well you must have made a similar call earlier that night cuz when this hand happened you were busto.

Thats pretty much every night!