What Next?

Kaizan

Looking for some advice here lads!

Have been involved with Muay Thai for 3 + years now and absolutly love it but would love to do something different or somewhere different. My question is this: What's best for contact and keeping weight off because I'm putting on weight since my last fight (which is natural) but I havent done natural for a litte while. I'm a woman who loves full contact sports.:D

King.Penguin

If you like Muay Thai you'll probably appreciate the full-contact nature of

Judo and Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu which are "grappling" so something completely different!

Thinks like Kyukushin karate and WTF Taekwon-do and boxing are other full-contact "striking" martial arts so something different but not completely.

Where? where's accessible?

Kaizan

I Like you're thinking! Where do these courses take plce = I like my physique right now and I'd like to keep up the fitness. Havent' a clue what it would involve but I love the idea of the challenge of something new.

King.Penguin

You'll find judo in the suburbs, Coolmine, Fairview, Baldoyle, Protmarnock. BJJ in Swords, Baldoyle and Rathcoole, submission wrestling in Firhouse, Tallaght, Balally too (submission wrestling is grappling without the martial arts kimono/uniform).

Kyukushin, you'll find that in a couple of places around Dublin, in East Wall in a MMA context.

Actually MMA may be the way to go, grappling and kickboxing together, SBG Northside and Rathcoole amongst other places.

You might consider things like weightlifting, triathlon, athletics, rugby too.

Kaizan

I work in the City Centre but couldn easily do an evening course somewhere. I need tio reccomed a wine My weight has scy rocketed 34 E, 26 wais5

Kaizan

Thanks for thea advice. Been running since the age of 5, now 36, so don/t see benefits of doing weights etc

ShaneT

Hey Kaizan,

Give me a shout if you fancy visiting us. We're walking distance from Connolly Station and your Muay Thai is a perfect base to work from (you'd be using and expanding on what you know - you wouldn't need to drop it after all that hard work!). We use Kyokushin, Boxing and Kickboxing for our standup so it'll be familiar to you whilst adding something new in other ranges (clinch, ground).

Email: shane**at**mmaireland.com
Web: www.mmaireland.com

adonis

the itf taekwando centre is on exchequer street too...might be worth a look

columok

Stick to full contact Kaizan. Give Shane and the boys a try. I think you'd be frustrated by TKD. Even WTF. No thai clinch. No leg kicks. No face punchs.

adonis

no face punches?
methinks you dont know what ur talking about

TKD SC

Yep, plenty of face punches in ITF TKD...
And a lot of comps (more so intl ones) are fairly full contact too.
I don't know about WTF TKD.
I always feel TKD is unfairly quoted here and dismissed as a high kicking non punching sport. (in fact, on the patterns / kata side, there is only about 20% kicking, majority is hands).
On a side, the Irish TKD squad has some great competitors. (Some of which are also very good boxers). Also some other guys cross train in other arts (BJJ etc).

Just getting this off my chest!!

columok

Well the generally functionally trained TKD (WTF lets be honest) doesn't allow punches to the face in olympic competition.

Advocating that someone who has fought thai should do ITF taekwondo is ignorant to say the least. In terms of training methods its pretty much a devolution. Out with the functional training methods and in with musical forms, patterns, self defence and kerazzee ritual...

adonis

i was stating it because she said she was in the city centre...
anyway your opinion is invalid due to the fact that you obviously dont know much about ITF --
although i do like musical forms...especially to abba

columok

anyway your opinion is invalid due to the fact that you obviously dont know much about ITF --

why do you say that? points fighting versus muay thai. patterns (sorry tuls) vs. muay thai. one step sparring versus muay thai. sine wave versus muay thai. Come on...

DITTKD

Musical patterns?
No face punching?

Mark Hamill

Before this thread goes off on a tangent, Kaizan have you gotten all the information you need, or do you need more? (locations, training times etc)

columok

Musical patterns= a joke

No face punching was referring to WTF- something I've already clarified.

TKD SC

have been in TKD for nearly 14 years and have never done a musical form / pattern / tul / poomsae

I must be missing out on so much...

who knew musical forms were even in TKD? definetely wasn't in any of the gradings, I'd have remembered that...

Pity ITF TKD is not functional either...

Nothingcompares

I think this thread is getting derailed. But what is a worthy observation is the only people that seem to campaign for the merits of TKD are people that do TKD. I don't do Kyukushin, I don't do Muay Thai, I don't do MMA (often) but I can recommend them to other people because they're worthy endeavours. I think if you're looking for impartial and objective advice you have to look away from guys that say "DO TKD, I DO TKD, TKD IS GREAT". You can obviously substitute MMA/BJJ for TKD here too.

DITTKD

columok wrote:

Musical patterns= a joke

No face punching was referring to WTF- something I've already clarified.

uh huh.......yeah.

At any rate, I wouldn't recommend the Centre on Exchequer street if one is interested in a lot of contact.

columok

No I meant I was joking about musical patterns.

I must be missing out on so much...

You are. Sort it out!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJxY8SyL4WU

adonis

lol
he is quite the athlete

TKD SC

columok wrote:

No I meant I was joking about musical patterns.


You are. Sort it out!!!

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LOL!!

TKD SC

Nothingcompares wrote:

I think this thread is getting derailed. But what is a worthy observation is the only people that seem to campaign for the merits of TKD are people that do TKD. I don't do Kyukushin, I don't do Muay Thai, I don't do MMA (often) but I can recommend them to other people because they're worthy endeavours. I think if you're looking for impartial and objective advice you have to look away from guys that say "DO TKD, I DO TKD, TKD IS GREAT". You can obviously substitute MMA/BJJ for TKD here too.

Hello,

I never said do TKD, I do it, it's great. I was just sticking up for it a little bit. I never actually said to do it! It's like a good ol' friend to me and I can't help but stick up for it! I agree, thread is getting derailed, and beginning to turn into a which MA is better argument as seems to constantly happen!

I'd like to hope I am fairly impartial. Obviously I do TKD, but I've also done classes in a load of other MA's (I won't mention them all, but lots!), and I think they're all great. I would never slag off any other MA. I used to snigger at Tai Chi until I met a Chen Tai Chi Chinese dude, Sifu Sam Sun who thought in Prussia St, who was absolutely amazing. Anyway, I'd recommend people to try out every MA that they can and then decide which best suits them for what they want out of it.

They are different paths to the same mountain top!

Nearly the Bank hol! Enjoy everyone!

TheDread Pirate

From my experiences TKD can vary from almost no contact to full contact depending on the association,style etc. Most people associate TKD with the WTF style but in some ITF clubs it more closely resembles semi-contact kickboxing.

Kaizan

Thanks guys - loads of useful info here and I'm definitely interested in heading down to Connolly St to have a look - sounds like it would have the right combination of different skills and the level of intensity I'm after.

Thanks again for all the replies.

cowzerp

I done a session with shane and have to say there a good group of lads and shane is a good instructor with kyokushin being his main art, he also has judo training and blends it well to make a good mma class-all in all i'd say it is a good place to train..