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con_leche

Are these 3 standard folds, or does anyone find a call or even a raise in any hand? If anyone raises, how much, and why?



H1
Fitz main table 1/2 PLHE

MP1 I haven’t seen play a hand & MP2 is loose. I have been at table for 15 mins, having not played Fitz before, & have not played a hand at the table.

MP1 [170] raises to 12
MP2 [200] calls
Hero [550] on button calls with KQc

3 to a flop: K 8 6 rainbow

MP1 leads for 12 & MP2 calls. I put MP2 on a weak King, and no idea on MP1. Action to me.



H2
e35 Rebuy tourney.

Final table with 8 players of mixed ability. I am second in chips. Decent cash prize [e500+] for 1st & 2nd only. Table has tightened up as rebuy period is over.

Blinds: 1000/2000
MP1 [40,000]: Limps [passive player, dealer, so good understanding of game.]
Button [33,000]: Raises to 6,000 [Decent opening range, will c-bet a flop]
Hero [54,000]: In BB holds [AJs] Action to me.



H3
e100 FO. Last two tables.

MP1 [45BB] covers table & limps. He normally open raises, and has been aggressive throughout.

Hero on button [28BB], raises for 3.5 BB with JJ. I am known to have a wide opening range here by MP [we were on same table all night & just moved], and I am above average on chips on this new table.

Blinds fold and MP1 limp calls.

Flop comes Q 4 3 with 2 clubs.

MP leads into me with 4 BB bet. Action to me.

kmick

Me
Call
Fold
Fold

phantom_lord

call.
call/raise
probably raise.

edit: unless he's a moron that limps aces then I'd just fold.

bubbleking

hand 1: call because its the fitz...seriously

hand 2: i dont like playing AJ oop but im a nit

hand 3: whats your stack size like? if you have the chips i would raise another 8-10 BB to see where your at. if the villain pushes i would fold.

valor

#1 is closer to a raise than a fold

#3 call

Rnger

i raise hand 1. MP1's bet is very weak as is MP2's call. Dont let them catch up on the turn cheaply. Some of these donks will call with K7

I call hand 2 mainly because your hand is suited and your getting good pot/implied odds. I really doubt MP2 will raise behind. Play very cautiously from then on unless you hit the flop hard

I call hand 3. The villian is aggressive and could be doing this with a wide range of hands. Bet if he gives up on the turn, fold otherwise.

Ste05

1: I probably raise, it's such a tiny little stupid bet that I'd nearly raise here just for kicks. Hopefully the original raiser will fold and the other guy will pay us off with a worse K. It'd depend on history and images though. Calling him down has some merit though too. I'm certainly never contemplating folding yet...

2: Just one point about the MP1 in this hand: What does he have a good understanding of? Anyone who is known for being passive and open limping I'd never have down as a good player or to have much of an understanding of the game at all??

con_leche wrote:

MP1 [40,000]: Limps [passive player, dealer, so good understanding of game.]

On the hand in general, it's quite a nasty spot and the stack sizes are awkward. If the raiser has a decent enough range, I think I just re-raise, to 18k and then have to call a shove if someone makes it, but I'd expect it to get through enough to be profitable (also adding in the times we suck out on a better hand or are racing and win). The dealer guy will basically have to fold nearly everything he limped with, unless he was getting cute with a big hand. And then we're HU with the raiser whose small raise amount from your read seems to be quite large. So I try and take it down now.

3: I think I would just call, and see what falls and what he does on the turn, what type of hands had you seen him limp call PF with?? Tricky, he could probably just as easily have a Q/ set as a draw, (although I'd think a draw of some sort is more likely here) but I just don't want to raise here and then have to call a push and then prey he actually has a draw, and then prey he doesn't have overs too and then cross my toes that he doesn't draw out on me.

DeadParrot

Ste05 wrote:

1: I probably raise, it's such a tiny little stupid bet that I'd nearly raise here just for kicks. Hopefully the original raiser will fold and the other guy will pay us off with a worse K. It'd depend on history and images though. Calling him down has some merit though too. I'm certainly never contemplating folding yet...

2: Just one point about the MP1 in this hand: What does he have a good understanding of? Anyone who is known for being passive and open limping I'd never have down as a good player or to have much of an understanding of the game at all??



On the hand in general, it's quite a nasty spot and the stack sizes are awkward. If the raiser has a decent enough range, I think I just re-raise, to 18k and then have to call a shove if someone makes it, but I'd expect it to get through enough to be profitable (also adding in the times we suck out on a better hand or are racing and win). The dealer guy will basically have to fold nearly everything he limped with, unless he was getting cute with a big hand. And then we're HU with the raiser whose small raise amount from your read seems to be quite large. So I try and take it down now.

3: I think I would just call, and see what falls and what he does on the turn, what type of hands had you seen him limp call PF with?? Tricky, he could probably just as easily have a Q/ set as a draw, (although I'd think a draw of some sort is more likely here) but I just don't want to raise here and then have to call a push and then prey he actually has a draw, and then prey he doesn't have overs too and then cross my toes that he doesn't draw out on me.

Pretty much sums up what my moves would be.
Though hand 3 I could well find a raise here