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Live Hand Megamix

  • 01-05-2007 11:48am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭


    Hand 1

    Effective stacks of 400. Table is quite passive preflop, lots of limped pots. I limp Ac6c UTG. Oberon makes it 10 in MP. 4 or 5 people call and I call.

    Flop (50)

    5c 7c 8d

    The BB leads out for 40. BB is an older gentleman, tends to overplay/overvalue one pair hands. His range here is a draw, one pair, 2 pair, a set, or a pair with a draw. I would guess it's on the weaker end of the spectrum though as he likes to checkraise his bigger hands.

    Anyways, I think and call. Oberon ships his last 125 in. The guy to my right agonises and eventually calls the extra 85 so I reckon he's quite weak. We both have about 275 left.

    Action on me.

    Hand 2

    Effective stacks 800. Playing 5 handed. I limp OTB after limpers with Ts6s. 5 people see the flop:

    Flop (10)

    3s 4s 5h

    SB leads for 10. 1 caller and I make it 45. Both call.

    Turn (145)

    7d

    SB leads for 100. Next guy calls. What do we like here?

    Hand 3

    Effective stacks 500.

    I make it 8 UTG with 88. 4 callers.

    Flop (40ish)

    8d 9d Ad

    I bet pot. 2 callers. One is a decent player, other guy is an unknown.

    Turn (160)

    2s

    ???


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 bombjack2


    hand 1: Shove
    hand 2: Shove
    hand 3: Shove


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    lol.


    1. i think either a call or a raise is fine here.
    2. strange. call?
    3. 100-120ish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,793 ✭✭✭bops


    1 - shove
    2 - raise to 250/300
    3 - go into check/calling mode - hope for non d or paired board river!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Hand 1: Push
    Hand 2: Push
    Hand 3: Not sure here, depends if I think the decent player will smooth call the flop with a made flush expecting us to do the betting for him. I'd probably bet 100 or so and see what develops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    Can you tell us who any of the villians are here?
    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 1

    Effective stacks of 400. Table is quite passive preflop, lots of limped pots. I limp Ac6c UTG. Oberon makes it 10 in MP. 4 or 5 people call and I call.

    Flop (50)

    5c 7c 8d

    The BB leads out for 40. BB is an older gentleman, tends to overplay/overvalue one pair hands. His range here is a draw, one pair, 2 pair, a set, or a pair with a draw. I would guess it's on the weaker end of the spectrum though as he likes to checkraise his bigger hands.

    Anyways, I think and call. Oberon ships his last 125 in. The guy to my right agonises and eventually calls the extra 85 so I reckon he's quite weak. We both have about 275 left.

    Action on me.???

    I think I shove this. You have massive equity in the hand.
    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 2

    Effective stacks 800. Playing 5 handed. I limp OTB after limpers with Ts6s. 5 people see the flop:

    Flop (10)

    3s 4s 5h

    SB leads for 10. 1 caller and I make it 45. Both call.

    Turn (145)

    7d

    SB leads for 100. Next guy calls. What do we like here? ???

    call and call the river bet
    ianmc38 wrote:
    Hand 3

    Effective stacks 500.

    I make it UTG with 88. 4 callers.

    Flop (40ish)

    8d 9d Ad

    I bet pot. 2 callers. One is a decent player, other guy is an unknown.

    Turn (160)

    2s

    It really depends on the players here. Sometimes I go into C/C mode other times I make it 125. Really have to be sitting at the table.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    hands 1 and 2 are shoveroos

    hand 3 is nasty, I could see myself check-folding to serious action behind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    I think 6 8 is a distinct possibilty in Hand 2 - Id not be rushing to shove the turn here. Its a limped pot in the SE, 6 8 is here plenty of times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 717 ✭✭✭charlesanto


    bops wrote:
    1 - shove
    2 - raise to 250/300
    3 - go into check/calling mode - hope for non d or paired board river!!

    d0t


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 bombjack2


    bombjack2 wrote:
    hand 1: Shove
    hand 2: Shove
    hand 3: Shove

    This is probably why I suck at cash games


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    shove call pot


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    I'm not sure what i would do in 2, either call or raise to 350 or something, either is fine, depends on reads and what I thought they had

    1 is an easy shove

    3 i either bet fold for around 130 or check call again it depends


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,679 ✭✭✭Daithio


    lol.


    1. i think either a call or a raise is fine here.
    2. strange. call?
    3. 100-120ish

    Agree with all of this apart from no 2. I think it's REALLY unlikely there's a higher straight out there with this action, so you should try and get it in with the freeroll on the turn.

    EDIT to say on 3 after betting 100-120ish I fold to a push.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Hand 1 - I shoved and turned a straight to beat Oberons KK. He was adamant I'd played it badly and should have just called his push. I didnt want to see the board pair on the turn and have to make a tough all if BB shoved. I also felt there was enough money in there to warrant a shove. BB instafolded.

    Hand 2 - This was a sick hand. I raised. BB shoved. other guy folded. i called. he had 68. he asked me to run it twice which i obviously did and we chopped it when i hit the spade on the 2nd run.

    Hand 3 - Turn was checked around and I check folded a diamond river. Someone had flopped the nuts. I was thinking bet fold turn may have been better though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,751 ✭✭✭BigCityBanker


    ianmc38 wrote:

    Hand 2 - This was a sick hand. I raised. BB shoved. other guy folded. i called. he had 68. he asked me to run it twice which i obviously did and we chopped it when i hit the spade on the 2nd run.

    Bam!!

    nice chop - what are the merits of him asking to run it twice? Who was it? I dont think I would be offering this to anyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Bam!!

    nice chop - what are the merits of him asking to run it twice? Who was it? I dont think I would be offering this to anyone.

    yeah kudos to you for not going broke! He was up a good bit for the night and didnt want to go broke in a 1700 pot if the spade hit. Myself and Mickste had run a hand twice a few hands before this where I flopped the second nut flush and he flopped bottom set...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    I find the general consensus on this hand strange.

    Why are we betting? Suirely we will not extract value from anything we beat.

    There's about a million draws out there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    Surely there is only one draw that can call you if you bet?

    Ya fair enough.
    Surely one of them might bet a lone diamond if you check to them?

    I dont profess to play live very often but afaik the players in these games are more adept at calling then betting.
    Surely if you check now, a pair / two pair will try and bet at you either on the turn or the river?

    Perhaps if we bet, 2 pair will raise and we can get AI.


    Basically I dont trust these players are aggressive enough to bet enough that check/raising or some other play becomes the best way to get our money into the middle. Thus I like doing the betting ourselves and trusing that they'll call. Perhaps betting less then pot is a better number though I haven't really done the stack maths.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    "Perhaps if we bet, 2 pair will raise and we can get AI."

    I think bet calling here is pretty bad, if we get raised here we will be facing a flush like 90% of the time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    OK maybe I'm severely underestimating the ammount of times we are actually beat here. I'm kinda looking at it from the perspective that we have the nuts and want to pretect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


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