Quick Omaha hand

eoghan104

Fitz €50 Omaha on friday night.

Stacks:

BB €250
UTG €220
MP €75
Button (Me) €330

Blnd raise to €4 from UTG and i get As Kc Qc 8s. I make it 20 to go. BB and Utg call and MP goes all in. I call with the two others. (good Bad?)

Flop (€300) 9c 7c 3s

Checked to me. Action?

TheRock

I dont know how this game plays (passive/manic etc), but;

If I'm following the action right your in LP and MP has called the 4 before it got to you? Think I would have just called the 4 rather then raised to 20.
By the time it gets back round to you you have to call 55 into a pot thats already 143 so your getting 2.6:1, suppose you have to call.

After the flop I check. You have a flush draw and its not the nut draw so even if you hit you could be behind. Think the mistake was reopening the betting with the 20 preflop.
But I'm new to the yamaha so I'd love to hear other opinions:rolleyes:

Bandana boy

if you think hitting your a or k will win against the all in guy i will bet here otherwise i am checking

smoothcall

Absolutely nothing wrong with your preflop raise. You have a very big hand on the button. After the action it comes back to you you could even go all in over the top and trap the 40 dead money from the others if you feel there weak but callings fine.

Id just check the flop as played cos theres not much point in betting when a players all in

eoghan104

smoothcall wrote:

Id just check the flop as played cos theres not much point in betting when a players all in

I dont think thats a good reason to check with €300 in there already.

5starpool

A thing I see a lot of in that game recently is people checking 2 pair/set into the preflop raiser with action like that in order to let them commit themselves if it looks like they have a big over pair hand. It really depends who else is in the hand a lot here but unless they are straightforward players with not trickery about them I check behind a lot here as I didn't really want to be in this spot in the first place with this hand.

eoghan104

5starpool wrote:

A thing I see a lot of in that game recently is people checking 2 pair/set into the preflop raiser with action like that in order to let them commit themselves if it looks like they have a big over pair hand. It really depends who else is in the hand a lot here but unless they are straightforward players with not trickery about them I check behind a lot here as I didn't really want to be in this spot in the first place with this hand.

Well I maybe should have done that in hindsight but I pushed hoping to get heads up. Ronan in the BB folded after a dwell up and the other guy (asian regular) called with a smaller flush draw. The flush hit on the turn and the All in player mucked.

Is this push terrible? after I left and thought about the hand I felt it wasnt great.

5starpool

It's not terrible, but in order to win anything, you realistically need to hit your flush as you are not beating anything at the moment, and are behind a lot of holdings from the all in player. I think in general it will lose you money here, as you will sometimes get called by hands such as 89Tx and be behind even in the now substantial side pot (not the best example maybe, but you get where I am going).

cardshark202

I think you should shove it in pf. There's enough dead money in the pot. As it is, its a definate push once it comes to you. You might be good if you just hit an ace or king vs the all in player. Plus you have the backdoor nut flush draw which is very important.

Marq

I would have re-re-raised pre-flop. considering the action you'll likely get headsup with the all in player, with dead money in the pot.
As played I don't see much point in betting the flop, you're only getting called by a hand that beats you or the nut flush draw, which might be tying with you atm.

the stacks in this hand are very shallow compared to the size of the pot.

eoghan104

Marq wrote:

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As played I don't see much point in betting the flop, you're only getting called by a hand that beats you or the nut flush draw, which might be tying with you atm.

Is it not worth betting in spots like this with so much in the main pot to get hands like 2 pair to fold and hope that our flush outs are live. (its quite likley they are.)

Marq

two pair can't fold here if you bet.

5starpool

eoghan104 wrote:

Is it not worth betting in spots like this with so much in the main pot to get hands like 2 pair to fold and hope that our flush outs are live. (its quite likley they are.)

As Marq says, 2 pair is not going to fold in this spot as they are too often ahead of your range (being the reraiser preflop) at this point, and will often check to you in the hope of you betting so that they can pick up on a likely continuation with with a big overpair.