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Fuel fire melts steel structure.

  • 29-04-2007 8:56pm
    #1
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Christ, traffic around these parts is going to suck for a while.

    http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/04/29/BAGVOPHQU46.DTL

    Tanker truck caught fire on the elevated roadway going to the Bay Bridge in San Francisco.

    However, it is an interesting example of a 'scattered fuel' fire causing sufficient melting in a steel structure (which is designed for earthquake survival) that it collapses, even if there is no weight of structure above it.

    NTM


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 356 ✭✭Tchocky


    oh dear :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Maybe its a false-flag operation.

    You know...staged by officials who are running scared as intrepid investigooglers work ever closer to the truth.

    They're trying to falsify scenarios to add support to the so-called theories that are central to preserving the lie that is the NIST report.

    Everyone knows that concrete and steel don't collapse from fire.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Turkilton


    bonkey wrote:
    Maybe its a false-flag operation.

    You know...staged by officials who are running scared as intrepid investigooglers work ever closer to the truth.

    They're trying to falsify scenarios to add support to the so-called theories that are central to preserving the lie that is the NIST report.

    Everyone knows that concrete and steel don't collapse from fire.

    You are an absolute idiot


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,639 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Turkilton wrote:
    You are an absolute idiot

    How have you gotten so far in life without the ability to recognise satire?

    NTM


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Turkilton


    How have you gotten so far in life without the ability to recognise satire?

    NTM

    With the nutjobs on this, it is conspiracy theories after-all, I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't satire.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭smashey


    bonkey wrote:
    Everyone knows that concrete and steel don't collapse from fire.

    Steel melts and collapses at a certain temperature.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Turkilton wrote:
    With the nutjobs on this, it is conspiracy theories after-all, I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't satire.

    May I refer you to this thread or this thread, or perhaps this post.

    You may find it instructive in figuring out whether or not I was engaging in satire.

    If you're still undecided, then I'd suggest you check any of the threads on this forum regarding the events of September 11, 2001.

    On a side note, you should probably check the charter of this forum which states :

    Be nice to other users and respect differing viewpoints. It is OK to disagree with someone without insulting them.

    I'd be curious as to how you think calling me an idiot or referring to unnamed posters as nutjobs is being nice or respectful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    Goodness gracious me, I am overwhelmed with amazement at this new physical phenomenon.

    Fire causes steel to lose structural strength, eh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Turkilton wrote:
    With the nutjobs on this, it is conspiracy theories after-all, I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't satire.

    Well you have to understand that Bonkey is one of the paid debunkers ont he site :rolleyes::D (yet nobody knows who pays him. We can only assume it's "them")


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,225 ✭✭✭Ciaran500


    Are you sure the truck wasn't carrying thermite?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Nick_oliveri


    Well, some of you probably heard of this. But teh prisonplanet website has posted this.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/300407freewaycollapse.htm

    Also, this kinda surprised me, but Steven Jones seems to be fabricating "evidence" in relation to the "thermite collapse" theory.

    These pictures are the best ones methinks!:

    jonesfiremen.jpg

    5575.jpg

    The top photo was used in a PP presentation by steven jones and would have you believe that there was molten metal. As you can see from the original, this is not the case.

    http://www.911researchers.com/node/147


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Is it just me, or do both those pictures look photoshopped? IMO, it looks like the real colour of the light is somewhere in between the two. Someone made in more orange as evidence for one arguments and someone drained the colour as evidence for the other.


  • Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 28,830 Mod ✭✭✭✭oscarBravo


    The second one looks about right for a picture in poor ambient light with an intense diffuse light source at the centre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Nick_oliveri


    Just want to say that i did find his arguements intriguing up until i seen that link.
    I will need some new large source of convincing, to make up for this.

    Yes indeedy that second picture does look like what i would expect from a lantern or a similar light source at the edge of / in the hole that the firemen surround.

    Also, why would they all crowd around molten metal pools? Some strange skin burning ritual?

    Edit: Heres that picture source:
    http://www.911researchers.com/node/147


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,497 ✭✭✭Nick_oliveri


    I cant say where i got the image, but it does seem like the original, untampered version of the picture has just been released.

    Remember, i cannot say where my source got this picture, but it does confirm the hypothesis that lucifer and his band of minions are indeed responsible for 9/11.

    5575nn2.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    I cant say where i got the image, but it does seem like the original, untampered version of the picture has just been released.

    Remember, i cannot say where my source got this picture, but it does confirm the hypothesis that lucifer and his band of minions are indeed responsible for 9/11.

    5575nn2.jpg

    lol, That's it! I knew he was involved somewhere!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,057 ✭✭✭civdef


    For no other reason than curiosity, have a look at the images on this page:

    http://www.softwood.org/AITC_eVersion/EN/p3.htm


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