Yellowpack Gardaí

Zebra3

Can you tell them apart from the "pros" :rolleyes: on duty by their numbers or anything?

source

I take it you mean the garda reserve??????:rolleyes: Yes they will have the letters gr on their shoulders as opposed to the district ie ky for kerry lk for limerick etc.

Mossy Monk

Yellowpack Gardaí. That is sure to catch on.

gipi

Thought "yellowpack" was already used to describe the trainees from Templemore who grace our streets each December for operation "no-flow"?!!:)

gandalf

Yeah use something like Gardai Lite, or Diet Garda.

irishgeo

The word gardai should not be used as they dont have any arrest powers.

patrickolee

gandalf wrote:

Yeah use something like Gardai Lite, or Diet Garda.

Have never seen any gardai to which that name would be appropriate! How about Grrrrrrrr gardai?

Mellor

gandalf wrote:

Yeah use something like Gardai Lite, or Diet Garda.

No they should do something clever and make the name sound like they are better to trick the average joe soap, like pepsi did,
Garda MAX

Judt

Yellowpack is a name given to amateurs. The army used to use it for the short termers who'd have to go out and buy their own yellow packs from Millets, rather than be issued a proper green one, back when we were short on manpower for the overseas missions. Nice to see it in the lexicon

Dyr

ehh no batman, Yellowpack was the quinnsworth (or someones) economy brand back in the 80s, the products came in plain yellow packaging, hence the name and hence yellowpack being used to subscribe any cheapo, substandard thingeys

Mellor

Judt wrote:

Yellowpack is a name given to amateurs. The army used to use it for the short termers who'd have to go out and buy their own yellow packs from Millets, rather than be issued a proper green one, back when we were short on manpower for the overseas missions. Nice to see it in the lexicon

I think it originally started in the grocery industry,
Yelow packs were the cheap verison of products, these became the KVI of tesco, thrift, euroshopper etc

edit:Bambi got there first, so i ave to go one better, Yellow packs started in Fine Fare supermarkets

Zebra3

irishgeo wrote:

The word gardai should not be used as they dont have any arrest powers.

Citizens On Patrol?

DublinWriter

Bambi wrote:

ehh no batman, Yellowpack was the quinnsworth (or someones)...

Superquinn

patrickolee

I think it was quinnsworth.

sioda

Twas Quinnsworth yellow pack lager ah i remember it well

lilrayosunshine

Zebra3 wrote:

Citizens On Patrol?

"someone call the gardai!!"
"no no, call the COPs! They'll get here quicker"

N_Raid

irishgeo wrote:

The word gardai should not be used as they dont have any arrest powers.

in uniform

My mate is a garda and he told me the story with them. (Here's the stupid part) They have full powers of arrest but only when in uniform. They can't take their uniform out of the station. If they're with a full time garda they can't make an arrest, the full timer has to do it. And they're not allowed out in uniform without a full timer with them. So technically they have arrest powers but the rules prevent them from using them.

Nephew

Do the reserves get paid? A few cops I spoke to really despise them due to effect they will have on overtime pay etc, so I guess the reserves are the modern day Serpico.

Screw yellowpack, they are the Serpico Gardai

junkyard

N_Raid wrote:

in uniform

My mate is a garda and he told me the story with them. (Here's the stupid part) They have full powers of arrest but only when in uniform. They can't take their uniform out of the station. If they're with a full time garda they can't make an arrest, the full timer has to do it. And they're not allowed out in uniform without a full timer with them. So technically they have arrest powers but the rules prevent them from using them.

I'd believe that alright, I'd love to meet the genius that thought that one up, I'll bet he'll be kept. Its just another waste of time and taxpayers money, why do they bother really.

coyote6

How 'bout "Freebie Wannabe G's"?:D

junkyard

junkyard wrote:

Its just another waste of time and taxpayers money, why do they bother really.

Because "more gardaí on the streets" was an election promise!

Owen

sioda wrote:

Twas Quinnsworth yellow pack lager ah i remember it well

Definitely Quinnsworth, Maurice Pratt used to do the ads. Boy did everything in that product line suck.

philcsl

Nephew wrote:

Do the reserves get paid? A few cops I spoke to really despise them due to effect they will have on overtime pay etc, so I guess the reserves are the modern day Serpico.

Garda overtime in 2006 was over €100 million, average garda wage was approx €50k.... Scrap overtime & hire 2000 new gardai

testicle

gipi wrote:

Thought "yellowpack" was already used to describe the trainees from Templemore who grace our streets each December for operation "no-flow"?!!:)

They're Piglets...

DeVore

"I can't believe its not Garda!"


(sorry, couldnt resist it!)

Dev.

patrickc

id love to be stopped by just a garda reserve (not that it would happen) but I'd drive on cos they have fu*k all authority they are just ordinary joe soaps

Random

Do they sell them in multipacks?

junkyard

Myth wrote:

Because "more gardaí on the streets" was an election promise!

But they're not Gardai, they might as well have cardboard cutouts ffs. Talk about a cheap way out, what would you expect from a cheap government but a cheap solution. When I say cheap government I mean third rate, they're anything but cheap to us taxpayers.:mad:

Thrill

To protect and serve, from behind the counter.

Thats where they should be, doing administrative work, filling in forms and
filing stuff away. freeing up real guardai to patrol the streets.

Judt

Well, you could say that the Garda Reserve are no more Gardai than the FCA isn't full of real soldiers. At the end of the day you end up using them on mostly menial tasks so that the real Gardai can be out doing the real job. Sure you give them a uniform and a badge, because that's what makes it worth it, same way that the FCA gives young men and women a chance to fire guns when, at the end of the day, they'll be used to stem flooding rivers.

Nephew

I can't get my head around why people would join the reserves, considering they don't get paid. At least with the FCA (RDF?), you get to shoot guns and do cool stuff

Saint_Mel

sioda wrote:

Twas Quinnsworth yellow pack lager ah i remember it well

Yellowpack lager was actually rebranded Tennents
(as far as I can remember)

humanji

N_Raid wrote:

And they're not allowed out in uniform without a full timer with them.

So it's a case of 50% extra free?

testicle

Judt wrote:

at the end of the day, they'll be used to stem flooding rivers.

I think you're mixing the RDF up with the Civil Defence.

Judt

testicle wrote:

I think you're mixing the RDF up with the Civil Defence.

Well, they're a fairly new invention. I seem to recall buses, flooding rivers and fire strikes being the most public business of the army way back when. The RDF (corporate Ireland loves rebranding) was called out sandbagging the last time we had some big flooding, as I recall?

Anyways, for the GR it's the same deal. Sit them on the desks and have one of them walk around with a real Garda on the beat. That means that technically you only need one "real" Garda to do two Gardai's jobs - he can do the arresting whilst the reservist pins you down, or takes statements, etc.

Heinrich

humanji wrote:

So it's a case of 50% extra free?

or buy one get one free.

ClarenceOveur

Saint_Mel wrote:

Yellowpack lager was actually rebranded Tennents
(as far as I can remember)

I thought Tennents was just a lager from Scotland?

Dyr

Yeah they just said it was from scotland. it was actually straight from the toilets of hell

humanji

Heinrich wrote:

or buy one get one free.

Well the reserve hardly count as a full one

Saint_Mel

ClarenceOveur wrote:

I thought Tennents was just a lager from Scotland?

Yes, it is.
But Quinnsworth used it for thier Yellow Pack range.
I think they sold Tennents, branded as Tennents, aswell.

Zebra3

Nephew wrote:

I can't get my head around why people would join the reserves, considering they don't get paid.

People join cos they're sad social losers on a power trip.

Judt

Zebra3 wrote:

People join cos they're sad social losers on a power trip.

What was that joke? "I'm detaining you under the 1983 'I was bulled as a child and now it's my f***ing turn' act."

Random

The reserves should simply be left to do the paperwork while "full" Gardai are put out on the streets.

Zebra3

ciaranfo wrote:

The reserves should simply be left to do the paperwork while "full" Gardai are put out on the streets.

Why not hire people to do that?

The government gives huge tax breaks to the rich and gets suckers to work for them for free.

Goes to show how stupid some people are.

Random

Then why not pay people to do it all? They'd prob be better off with "Temple Bar Security" or "Grafton St Security" then Garda reserves.

Gran Hermano

Hobby-bobbies FTW
It's all just a scam for FF to claim there are X amount of extra cops on the street.

Best update on the situation was that as it's the Gardai themselves who are responsible
for recruiting the part-timers they are 'surprisingly' not finding many suitable candidates amongst
the applicants to date. Bit of a coincidence that the people who objected to the part-timers
(nothing to do with the full-timers loosing their valuable overtime) are finding it difficult to recruit
suitable people.

Kernel

Gran Hermano wrote:

Hobby-bobbies FTW
It's all just a scam for FF to claim there are X amount of extra cops on the street.

PD's, not FF.

Gran Hermano wrote:

Best update on the situation was that as it's the Gardai themselves who are responsible
for recruiting the part-timers they are 'surprisingly' not finding many suitable candidates amongst
the applicants to date. Bit of a coincidence that the people who objected to the part-timers
(nothing to do with the full-timers loosing their valuable overtime) are finding it difficult to recruit
suitable people.

Not 100% sure on this, but the selection process is conducted by the civil service, not Gardaí, although they would carry out background security checks. As for impacting overtime, sure the reservists cant do much, so they wouldn't be affecting real Guards' overtime. I'm a cynic so I'd say it's just more bodies on the streets. In defence of reservists, I'm sure many are civically minded and well intentioned. Ultimately, however, it's a profession, and not suitable for part timers.