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do brits only play aces?

  • 29-04-2007 12:35am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭


    playing cash in london where the game is considerably tighter than the jackpot and this hand came up, the vilian is extremely tight by english standards so he is almost llyod like by our standards. and i ave been paying solid enough whereb the minimum i would call with is top pair

    it is a 1/2 game with a 5 live stradle, which the option hasnt been taken and im in the bb, stack wise im on about 900 and villian has 500ish

    utg limps 3 callers and small blind completes i have 45 soooted and i raise it 5 to see where the limpers stand.utg reraises pot to 25 and everyone else folds, i call

    the flop is Ac 4s 5h,

    not a bad flop for me,i check and villian bets out 45 pounds,i go into the tank and call(good bad indifferent?) my reasoning is that he may put me on a weak ace and bet again and if he doesnt have one he wont call a reraise and ill lose value

    turn is 4h

    i decide to bet out 80 hoping he has an ace and he thinks im stealing, he then goes into his tank for ages event hough he is looking confident and makes it 300 to go.

    does he have aces here everytime? and even then do i have to call everytime?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 269 ✭✭imalegend


    all brits do only play aces...lol

    on a serious not im calling in this spot(with the intention of putting him all in on the river)...from the way it played out it looks either AA or AK.Id even say more likey AK because he actually bet the flop cos if he was a weak player he would have checked IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    "i raise it 5 to see where the limpers stand"

    huh?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭Trippie


    valor wrote:
    "i raise it 5 to see where the limpers stand"

    huh?

    as the game is very tight a lot of people fold to this fiver bet and usually only semi decent hands stick around


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    just check, getting limp re raised is not good and we can see a multiway flop with a great hand for playing a multiway pot for free i really dislike the raise

    as for the hand i think your postflop line espec the weak turn lead is great and i would never fold now, put the rest in, if he has AA good for him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Trippie wrote:
    as the game is very tight a lot of people fold to this fiver bet and usually only semi decent hands stick around

    so people who have previously limped for £2 fold for an extra £3?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭Trippie


    so people who have previously limped for £2 fold for an extra £3?


    ye trust me i was as shocked when i came over here as you sound, only last week i saw the bb fold to the blind stradle after everyone else folded


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,615 ✭✭✭Mr.Plough


    im ****faced and im still appalled you would ever contemplate folding this

    ship the sherbet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    raising there with aces full is pretty silly, he probably still has it though


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Trippie wrote:
    the vilian is extremely tight by english standards so he is almost llyod like by our standards

    lol, who is this joker :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    You obviously wern't in the Gutshot? They're all looser than a crack ho in the bronx.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    ianmc38 wrote:
    You obviously wern't in the Gutshot? They're all looser than a crack ho in the bronx.

    Did you use that metaphore in the Leaving Cert?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,993 ✭✭✭Trippie


    Getting all your money in everytime on this board; with your holding; against a player like me; giving that action - would be - EV. Whatever though - Ship it. You are never folding.


    llyod i know i can't fold a hand most of the time but other people can and this is the point i was thinking about, against you llyod i would expect to be behind 99 out of 100 times and just taking advantage of your image the other one time so therefore i have to fold as this is extremely -EV, as everyone is saying i have to call does this mean no-one has ever folded a full house? i know i have before but thats because it was an easy fold however is there a certain strength of hand that you can have and that regardless of the action which has taken place you can't fold because it is too strong and if this is the case does it not revert to a bad level of poker as you are only playing your own hand and nothing else

    for example you have pocket 8's and its raised preflop by a tag player, you call flop comes A 8 8, you check he bets you call, turn is an A, you bet out a nominal amount he raises you, you call, river is an A, now what do you do yes you have a poker but clearly so does he can you fold in that situation


    NB (i know this is an extremely simplified situation but its the clearest example i can come up with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    Trippie wrote:

    for example you have pocket 8's and its raised preflop by a tag player, you call flop comes A 8 8, you check he bets you call, turn is an A, you bet out a nominal amount he raises you, you call, river is an A, now what do you do yes you have a poker but clearly so does he can you fold in that situation


    NB (i know this is an extremely simplified situation but its the clearest example i can come up with

    haha. i think HJ played almost that exact hand. turned out the other guy had nothing.


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