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Number of horses in training in Ireland

  • 27-04-2007 9:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 620 ✭✭✭


    Is there too many horses in training in Ireland..?
    The declarations for racing at Punchestown on Sat would suggest so.

    Do we need even more meetings to be staged to give some horses a run..?

    I'd say for owners who are desperately wanting to see there horse run and is ballotted out on numerous occasions is very frustrating. Especially as they are paying fees, vets etc.

    I don't own a horse and probably never will but its a problem the industry has and solutions need to be found.

    For me as a punter its a minefield with so many runners and so little chance of picking the right one....lol...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 55 ✭✭easytiger!


    Much as anything I'd say there's no control on breeding, lot of mediocre horses breeding more mediocre horses, and with the fact there's a lot of people around with money than sense. I know a few different fellas that took leases on horses as part of syndicates and the horses they got were more suited to bringing turf from the bog


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,669 ✭✭✭Colonel Sanders


    HRI also had a massive marketing campaign to promote ownership, attracted flocks of new owners without the necessary expansion in the fixture list.

    The bottom line is there is massive overproduction of horses and asa result far too many horses who will never finish in the first 10 never mind win a race.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Murta


    Prehaps trainers need to be butally honest with owners. Little point in keeping a horse in training if it's not up to much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭wb


    I think they should expand the calendar and introduce more lower class racing to cater for these horses. I'm not saying that we should go down the banded route like in Britain, but we should separate the lower class horses from the main. People will complain that it wont be good for punters, but no-one is forced to bet on such races, and it also gives the owner a chance to see the horse run, and maybe win a prize.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭knighted


    but who is going to pay for the prize money if more races are introduced?

    in england the prize money is ajoke 2 or 3 grand -u would want to win 5 times ayear to get ur training fees back -hence the number of gambles that go on -promoting new owners is nessescary as each year u have a very high rate of drop outs who get stiffed by trainers who at the end of the day are running a business and need mug owners and syndicates to pay there bills so its all a big circle -

    government give 60 million a year to hri to put into the sport but they are coming under pressure from the public as the money could be redirected to healthcare education etc -but what the public dont realise is that galway festival alone generates 60 million revenue to the local economy so thats a good return on the governments money


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 559 ✭✭✭knighted


    IRELAND YEAR 2005 BREEDING STATISTICS



    Number of Stallions
    Thoroughbreds 405
    Pure Arabs 0
    Trotters 0
    SUBTOTAL 405



    Number of Mares
    Thoroughbreds 18,817
    Pure Arabs 0
    Trotters 0
    SUBTOTAL 18,817



    Number of Births 2003
    Thoroughbreds 10,574
    Pure Arabs 0
    Trotters 0
    SUBTOTAL 10,574



    Number of Births 2004
    Thoroughbreds 10,992
    Pure Arabs 0
    Trotters 0
    SUBTOTAL 10,992



    Number of Births 2005
    Thoroughbreds 11,748
    Pure Arabs 0
    Trotters 0
    SUBTOTAL 11,748












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    Global statistics of the International Federation of Horseracing Authorities (IFHA) today showed healthy developments of the sector in most countries. Statistics of over 50 countries have been collected and analysed by the IFHA. They can be found at our facts & figures section under racing and wagering menus on this site. Some of the more interesting conclusions that can be drawn from the statistics:

    Breeding

    Thoroughbred foaling remains stable at around 114,000 births in 2003. The USA remains the largest breeding nation with around 30% of world foals, followed by Australia (13%) and Ireland (9%).

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    80% of racing in the world is done in only 10 countries. Leaders here are the USA with 108,000 races, followed by Australia (37,000) and Canada (32,000).

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    The average prize money per race for flat racing is highest in Hong Kong (98,700 Euros), followed by the United Arab Emirates (58,180) and Japan (31,520). The average prize money per obstacle race in Japan is a stunning 190,920. Among the main racing nations, the Great Britain showed the strongest growth in purses by 16,8 % from 2002 to 2003.

    Many Asian countries have a healthy balance between the annual costs of maintaining a horse and prize money. Average prize money in 2003 grew from 78% to 100% os annual maintenance costs in India and from 146% to 189% in Korea. In South America, Argentina saw average prize money grow from 185% to 246% of annual maintenance costs.

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