Yet another example of silly modding on this forum

darkman2

This is not a forum for making profits on other peoples opinions.Wager on whatever you think yourself from your own link.

Thread locked.

There was nothing wrong with that thread whatsoever. So any chance there might be a bit of cop on some day? Really this is farcical. Why do we bother? No one in their right mind would post here if they were new to this part of Boards. Im not supprised. Stupid, absolutely rediculous for a weather forum.

r3nu4l

Dude, take it to PM or Feedback...PM first I'd say

rc28

I must say I agree with you darkman. I saw that thread yesterday and was shocked at the reason given for locking it. There was nothing wrong with the subject at all. This after all is the weather forum of boards so I think the thread was right to be here talking about what people think of a long range forecast.
But of course some mod sees something wrong with it. It's as if they go out of there way to find anything wrong.

ninebeanrows

Although i do believe that yesterdays thread closure was indeed abit peculiar i think this thread is a bit out of place in this Forum. You should contact the mod in question via PM or bring it to the Help Desk Forum or Feedback.

Snowbie is a good guy and he does help out alot so i don't think a thread in this vain should remain open.

Maybe some things should be changed but Snowbie is very deserving of the job.

darkman2

I never suggested anyone was undeserving of the job but the regulation in this forum down to Snowbie is OTT. The forum should be more open then it is now. Considering this is one of the least used forums I dont think we would get much satisfaction from Feedback tbh. Most regulated weather forum in the world, surely.

kindredspirit

Unfortunately, I contribute little to this forum because although I'm intensely interested in the weather, I feel that I don't have the expertise on the subject. However, I do read it every night.

My own feeling, for what it is worth, is that, it is a case of over-moderating and that this atmosphere will eventually stifle the forum. I contribute many threads and replies to other forums that are moderated with a free-er rein and have become, in a sense, self-moderating (although their moderators, we know to be always there in the background.) These forums are richer because of the free-er rein they are given.

We need this "richness" in forums. Just my tuppence worth.

ninebeanrows

darkman2 wrote:

I never suggested anyone was undeserving of the job but the regulation in this forum down to Snowbie is OTT. The forum should be more open then it is now. Considering this is one of the least used forums I dont think we would get much satisfaction from Feedback tbh. Most regulated weather forum in the world, surely.

I do agree that it is over moderated don't get me wrong Just wonder is this the place to discuss it

darkman2

I just think Snowbie should go easier on the modding. Un-nessacary closing or editing of threads just riles people up. I think it could do with less structure too but thats another issue. Just my opinion of course.

Snowbie

Just back online as my broadband both at home and in work(same exchange and ISP) has been awol since last tuesday evening untill recently.
Cheers for the feedback.
Right firstly,I needed clarification or 2nd opinion on that thread.A minor issue i needed resolved by an admin.I therfore locked the thread untill i got an issue looked at for me.Again minor but nonetheless was temporarily.Unfortunately i couldnt do anything about it untill now and also till i read my replied PM.

darkman2 wrote:

There was nothing wrong with that thread whatsoever

Sorted

darkman2 wrote:

So any chance there might be a bit of cop on some day?

I dont appreciate this.

Really this is farcical. Why do we bother? No one in their right mind would post here if they were new to this part of Boards. Im not supprised. Stupid, absolutely rediculous for a weather forum.

Why this outburst,some mods would have banned you for one of these quotes or both.You got banned from after hours for something similar.

regulation in this forum down to Snowbie is OTT

but my contribution to the forum is one of interest not slander.

Most regulated weather forum in the world, surely

This weather forum is under boards.ie and not independant from it.There are rules we all must abide by,charter for each forum,legality issues,events etc.One must watch what they say.Why mods or several mods are put in place with each forum.

Considering this is one of the least used forums I dont think we would get much satisfaction from Feedback tbh

Not tempted yet,lets see if we can sort out the issues here first.

To put all this simple,probably none of this would have happened if my bb didnt die and if you where to PM me instead of tryin to publically slander me.
This is the third time in less than a year you have publically try to deface me as a mod on this forum.There will not be a fourth.
You contribute well to this forum as does most even the new posters but i think you should take a long deep breath before posting sometimes.

Snowbie

Weathercheck wrote:

Although i do believe that yesterdays thread closure was indeed abit peculiar

An issue had to be straightened out but all sorted now.

You should contact the mod in question via PM

No PM received unfortunately.

Snowbie is a good guy and he does help out alot so i don't think a thread in this vain should remain open.

Cheers WC but im all ears to what people think.

Maybe some things should be changed but Snowbie is very deserving of the job.

You forgot to put thankless before job:p

rediguana

A veritable "storm" in a teacup.

Snowbie

kindredspirit wrote:

Unfortunately, I contribute little to this forum because although I'm intensely interested in the weather, I feel that I don't have the expertise on the subject. However, I do read it every night.

You might learn more if you do contribute to this forum,not every body here is an expert either,some have limited knowledge too.:)

I contribute many threads and replies to other forums

From may 2005 with 25 posts is not contributing alot,your more a lurker than a poster.

We need this "richness" in forums. Just my tuppence worth.

Agreed.Swings both ways though.:)

darkman2

Snowbie wrote:

Just back online as my broadband both at home and in work(same exchange and ISP) has been awol since last tuesday evening untill recently.
Cheers for the feedback.
Right firstly,I needed clarification or 2nd opinion on that thread.A minor issue i needed resolved by an admin.I therfore locked the thread untill i got an issue looked at for me.Again minor but nonetheless was temporarily.Unfortunately i couldnt do anything about it untill now and also till i read my replied PM.
Sorted
I dont appreciate this.
Why this outburst,some mods would have banned you for one of these quotes or both.You got banned from after hours for something similar.
but my contribution to the forum is one of interest not slander.
This weather forum is under boards.ie and not independant from it.There are rules we all must abide by,charter for each forum,legality issues,events etc.One must watch what they say.Why mods or several mods are put in place with each forum.
Not tempted yet,lets see if we can sort out the issues here first.

To put all this simple,probably none of this would have happened if my bb didnt die and if you where to PM me instead of tryin to publically slander me.
This is the third time in less than a year you have publically try to deface me as a mod on this forum.There will not be a fourth.
You contribute well to this forum as does most even the new posters but i think you should take a long deep breath before posting sometimes.

Jezus ive better things to be doing then trying to slander people online. I was not banned from after hours for any such thing and im a happy member now. That thread may have been sorted but there is still an underlying problem which persists and that is the over regulation of the forum. Dont give me the whole boards.ie thing. This is the weather forum - to be perfectly honest were not going to be over run with imbeciles if more latitude is given. Like I said this forum is not exactly a 'must see' on boards. Keep it as it is if it suits you.

There is a gambling and a poker forum on boards.ie and afaik DapperGent and DeVore are both avid poker players.
So this site does not frown upon gambling and I don't think it's the perogative of a mod to comment on someone elses gambling.
We may as well close down the horse racing forum too on that basis.


Most if not all weather fora that I visit have threads similar to that one just as much as they have them on whether or not we will have a white christmas-It wouldnt be in order to close them on the basis that someone said they were going to gamble on it.
A mods job here is not to be the thought police (except of cource in cases of porn and personal abuse etc)

A question on the thread could have been asked in mod and I'm pretty sure lockage would not have been the advice given.

Snowbie

Tristrame wrote:

There is a gambling and a poker forum on boards.ie and afaik DapperGent and DeVore are both avid poker players.
So this site does not frown upon gambling and I don't think it's the perogative of a mod to comment on someone elses gambling.
We may as well close down the horse racing forum too on that basis.

As i said above a minor detail i needed sorting.You know if in doubt...Surely as a mod you should know where im coming from regarding second opinion.Couldnt foresee my bb connection was going to go down either.Thread locked temporarily untill i got it sorted maybe it would have been for just an hour or few mins?but out of my hands untill bb came back on which unfortunately for me wasnt for over 27hrs later.

Most if not all weather fora that I visit have threads similar to that one just as much as they have them on whether or not we will have a white christmas-It wouldnt be in order to close them on the basis that someone said they were going to gamble on it.

Yes thats true fun bets are allowed but not all weather fora and their hosted site have also a gambling forum like boards has.Thread could have been moved there to gambling forum but as its obviously relevant to this forum i locked it for a seperate minor issue.Again its sorted.

A question on the thread could have been asked in mod

Maybe but i needed one voice not several

I'm pretty sure lockage would not have been the advice given.

Not entirely accurate.There are limits to gambling too.

Snowbie

darkman2 wrote:

I was not banned from after hours for any such thing.

But you were banned for your outbursts and ignoring mods.[thread=2055021998]Here post #51 onwards[/thread] and then your feedback thread you created [thread=2055023025]Here[/thread]
You then apologised and got unbanned,but by having 3 outbursts against me on this forum within the last year where you publically try to deface me as a mod i would be not so lenient in unbanning you so quickly but then again i havent banned you at all.

Its your OTT reactions thats plain and obvious for all to see,not my OTT modding.

Mothman

I originally didn't think it was appropiate to post here on this issue, but since Snowbie is engaging us here, I will.

I was surprised when I saw this thread started reacting to one thread being locked. But it seems that I must missed other issues due to my less than daily visits to this forum.

So here's a view point from someone whose visits are irregular.

The thread in question, I couldn't be arsed whether it was locked or not. I'm not into this kind of speculating. It did seem odd that it was locked, but a combination of circumstances meant that Snowbie couldn't tackle the issues sooner. I feel the choice in wording by Snowbie was inappropiate in his last message before the locking.

However I've no other issues with the modding here. I'm assuming that I've missed issues, or perhaps I'm more forgiving towards someone who is here under there own freewill to keep a place tidy and to share his knowledge. IMO Snowbie's postives far far outweigh the negatives, so I'm happy to put up and shut up.

I think it's wrong to compare this weather forum with the likes of TWO, NW etc. These are dedicated weather sites with numerous sections. This forum is a single section in a much larger community and the management of threads etc cannot be compared.

I won't be discussing further in this thread as to me this is a mountain being made out of a molehill.

darkman2

Snowbie wrote:

But you were banned for your outbursts and ignoring mods.[thread=2055021998]Here post #51 onwards[/thread] and then your feedback thread you created [thread=2055023025]Here[/thread]
You then apologised and got unbanned,but by having 3 outbursts against me on this forum within the last year where you publically try to deface me as a mod i would be not so lenient in unbanning you so quickly but then again i havent banned you at all.

Its your OTT reactions thats plain and obvious for all to see,not my OTT modding.

If its the 3rd time that must mean things are not exactly peachy. How in gods name was I suppose to know your bb went down? Like I say keep it as it is if you want to. Also it is very much the OTT modding. I think your going out of your way to find issues with threads. I dont have a problem with you personally so dont try and twist it to make it look like I do. I appreciate alot of what your doing. However for me I think now I was justified in raising an eyebrow when Tristame picked you to be a mod ahead of others who had posted for longer and could have done a better job in my view. I could not understand the logic there tbh but there you go. May aswell be honest. Anyway I really dont have the inclination to continue this so lets just leave it there.

Snowbie

darkman2 wrote:

Anyway I really dont have the inclination to continue this so lets just leave it there.

Yes and thats where you should have left it, there.

Lets swing around the roundabout yet again.If you have no inclination in continuing well then this be my last post in this thread you created in my honour.
Now i will disect this posting yet again.

darkman2 wrote:

If its the 3rd time that must mean things are not exactly peachy

Well if i apparently "OTT" moderated i would have banned you the first time and there would be no second or third,but im not "hot headed".

How in gods name was I suppose to know your bb went down?

Well ditto,how was i suppose to know too.Give me the benefit of a doubt.You seen an oppurtunity to pounce and you took it,yet again,bit OTT i reckon.

I dont have a problem with you personally so dont try and twist it to make it look like I do. I appreciate alot of what your doing. However for me I think now I was justified in raising an eyebrow when Tristame picked you to be a mod ahead of others who had posted for longer and could have done a better job in my view.I could not understand the logic there tbh but there you go. May aswell be honest

Now the truth finally arrives.Myself and a certain few have always known about this.I had to put up with several posters who didnt agree of me being a mod on this forum since i took over from Tristrame with 186 posts to my name at the time and so the defence of my tenure as mod began and is still going on to this day.Its laughable really and this thread sums it up.Why the big deal i ask.Thankless job imo but i dont mind it.I put up with more abuse here than i do from my kids tbh.

There is sweet fa to mod on here tbh but when i do something WWIII breaks out.Its not as if people are banned from here all the time or very rarely i have to change thread titles etc etc,and if i do why does it rile you as you mentioned already?.I do my best in tryin to keep this forum as interesting as possible and as tidy as possible,if this is your so called "regulating" that frustrates you so much,well dont come here then.Its your decision.

As for this forum i publicise it as best i can with links in my sig on other weather forums.I post on four of them,two of which you do not have access too unless you have a lightning detector.They visit here and move on as most are people from different countries and have no interest in our weather,not because the way i mod.Everybody who comes here does not need to post.Dont assume no-one visits here,they actually do.You and i are called regulars who frequent here,dont compare this forum to netweather where you also post more than here.We are an island of 5.5million people,UK has a pop of over 60million and thus a larger community of weather enthusiasts over there with a variety of experience.Here we contend with a smaller audience.Though you have put on a show for all the wrong reasons.

So the entertainment factor for other people visiting this forum and viewing this thread would be far more interesting now than actually talking or discussing about the weather.
Now im gone blind and my finger is killin me so off to bed i go.

Mothman

Mothman wrote:

I won't be discussing further in this thread as to me this is a mountain being made out of a molehill.

Agreed I gave an opinion on the lockage thats all.
It wouldnt have been fair of me to condemn the lockage,I just wouldnt have locked it.I'm quite happy with snowbies reasoning though.

darkman2

Snowbie wrote:

You seen an oppurtunity to pounce and you took it,yet again,bit OTT i reckon.

Get over yourself.

Supercell

Please lock this tread or take to feedback/pm its getting boring.

Snowbie

darkman2 wrote:

Get over yourself.

I'm not going to engage in a petty quibble with you.

Longfield wrote:

Please lock this tread or take to feedback/pm its getting boring.

Has anyone else got any further issues or feedback here?:)

fatherdougalmag

I'm with Longfield

Snowbie

Snowbie wrote:

Has anyone else got any further issues or feedback here?

None,right so locking this then.

For future reference,use the PM function if in doubt,suggestion or unhappy with something.Feedback is the another option.
This thread would not exsist if PM was sent originally and i would have replied in explaining why, no problem.
Issue has been dealt with.

This is a weather forum for discussing weather and all things related to meteorology etc etc,so lets keep it that way.:)

Snowbie

Moved from Weather.

In light of recent preceedings on the politics forum regarding his dual account from a banning which he later said was his brother doing,
apparently this thread was also done by Darkman2's brother.This thread was left to die in the weather forum but im interested to hear a different side to this and admit it was himself and all the other times he acted up.

Since he has been avoiding me regarding this on his politics feedback thread,maybe he will shed some light on this here for moi.

NB:The darkman2 account whoever holds it was never banned from weather.