Christianity Forum disappointing

siochain

Been a new member to boards I'm quite disappointed with this forum. There is so much negativity wheres as I believe Christianity should celebrated in a positive manner. I also belive that the negativity puts Christians off posting here.


And sorry PDN but I don't see why we should draw in this negativity by starting treads like 'Does this explain why atheists post here?'.

Mods how about setting up a poll asking do the Christians who post here do they want the Charter changed?

garthv

Been a new member to boards I'm quite disappointed with this forum. There is so much negativity wheres as I believe Christianity should celebrated in a positive manner. I also belive that the negativity puts Christians off posting here.

Its the internet, what do you expect?

siochain

as pointed out in other treads the Islam and soccer treads have tighter posting rules, why not here.

philologos

OP: Boards.ie is not a democracy it is run as the mod / administration team sees fit. They take suggestions into account but they don't have to take them on board.

It has been agreed that Christians can make Christian only threads about practise etc, but Atheists are more than welcome to ask questions about the faiths and post in threads (the majority of them infact) that haven't been requested to be posted in by Christians only.

siochain

Hi Jakkass, yeah I see and take your points. Perhaps I'll just read the Christian only posts in future.

Nevyn

Why don't you start a thread yourself siochain about the postives that you feel christainity brings to you and to humanity.

Scofflaw

siochain wrote:

Mods how about setting up a poll asking do the Christians who post here do they want the Charter changed?

What you suggest assumes in advance that only Christian opinions are relevant on the Christianity forum. Since that's the point at issue, a poll of Christians only lacks any semblance of neutrality.

We are trying to make the A&A forum the natural home for Atheist/Christian dialogue, but the fact is that Christian posters don't post there, so the discussions wind up here instead. As Jakkass says, you can request in a first post that the thread remain Christian only - personally I still think this should be noted in the title instead, but there we go...

You can also put any declared atheists on Ignore if you feel we have nothing to say worth listening to, of course.

cordially,
Scofflaw

PDN

Thaedydal wrote:

Why don't you start a thread yourself siochain about the postives that you feel christainity brings to you and to humanity.

But be aware that starting a positive non-confrontational thread on Christianity may leave you open to the accusation of "coat trailing" (behaviour that is deliberately provocative).

Also, if someone uses your positive thread to launch an attack against Christianity on an entirely unrelated subject, do not under any circumstances accuse them of "bashing" as this will raise a howl of protest from the poor persecuted atheists. Whatever you do, do not use the word "hijack", as you may actually be banned for doing so.



Yes, I know, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me either, but as newcomers to the board we have to play by their rules.

Nevyn

:rolleyes:

DeVore

I'm the admin around. Your post makes no sense to me PDN. If you genuinely ever see something like that feel free to bring it to my attention (that is, presuming you think the Mod's are somehow in cahoots with the critics... which I cant fathom).

The christians are not required to defend their faith any more then the Muslims (who have it far far worse then here believe me).

I have my own, quite strong feelings about the church and faith etc both positive and negative but they arent important. This space was created to allow Christians to post and communicate with each other.

DeV.

philologos

Not very many forums have a space to even discuss Christianity. I can personally see why Atheists would want to see how and why Christians believe in something. If I were to use reason to the extent that a lot of Atheists use it I would be asking the same questions. People are always confused about things and I have no problem with the expression of views. I find that the new system is working well, whereby Christians are free to discuss the ways in which they practise their faith with themselves, and whereby Atheists and other faith groups are open to discuss verses of Scripture, the whys and why nots of belief etc.

J C

DeVore wrote:

This space was created to allow Christians to post and communicate with each other.

DeV.

Sounds like the 'converted preaching to the converted' to me!!!!:)

As Christians we are called by 1Pe 3:15 to "be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:"

...and Jesus Christ commands every Christian in Mt 28:19 to "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

......as Christians we 'need to get out more' and meet people in need of salvation!!!!!!

........a few Atheists may turn up to heckle from the sidelines - but everyone indwelt by the Holy Spirit will have no problem answering ALL of their questions!!!!:)

Have a look at the Bible Creationism and Prophecy 'mega thread' where almost everything about the Christian Faith is eventually discussed!!!!:)

J C

Jakkass wrote:

Not very many forums have a space to even discuss Christianity. I can personally see why Atheists would want to see how and why Christians believe in something. If I were to use reason to the extent that a lot of Atheists use it I would be asking the same questions.

It is important for Christians to support and fellowship with each other.

However, I don't understand why you appear to think that the use of reason somehow questions the basis of Christianity - I would say that reason objectively supports the existence of God!!!:)

Scofflaw

PDN wrote:

But be aware that starting a positive non-confrontational thread on Christianity may leave you open to the accusation of "coat trailing" (behaviour that is deliberately provocative).

Well, I do apologise for that one - however, you're taking it out of context here. Hmm. Possibly you're taking it out of context in order to sway opinion? Surely not!

PDN wrote:

Also, if someone uses your positive thread to launch an attack against Christianity on an entirely unrelated subject, do not under any circumstances accuse them of "bashing" as this will raise a howl of protest from the poor persecuted atheists.

(gentle cough)...I seem to remember something about "Christian-bashing", actually. Your usually excellent memory may have failed you on this occasion...

PDN wrote:

Whatever you do, do not use the word "hijack", as you may actually be banned for doing so.



Yes, I know, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me either, but as newcomers to the board we have to play by their rules.

Which have been stated...but then, one is always entitled to complain.

cordially,
Scofflaw

BrianCalgary

Hey siochain
As a moderator, I'll try and explain the philosophy Iuse in moderating.

I fully support the responsibility Christians have in beoong prepared to discuss our faith. Some would think it wonderful to have a place for Christians only to discuss matters pertaining to Christianity. However, if we don't invite in searchers we are not being true to the command of spreading the news. And if we allow searchers the dissenters will follow.

All the regular posters I find to be gentlemen and women in the area of civil debate. It has also been agreed upon by all concerned that if you want a thread to be Christian only, just mark it as so.

Or if you would like a specific help on any topic, we are here to send a private message to.

The board is not ideal, but it is what it is.

Keep in touch.

J C

BrianCalgary wrote:

Hey siochain
As a moderator, I'll try and explain the philosophy Iuse in moderating.

I fully support the responsibility Christians have in beoong prepared to discuss our faith. Some would think it wonderful to have a place for Christians only to discuss matters pertaining to Christianity. However, if we don't invite in searchers we are not being true to the command of spreading the news. And if we allow searchers the dissenters will follow.

All the regular posters I find to be gentlemen and women in the area of civil debate. It has also been agreed upon by all concerned that if you want a thread to be Christian only, just mark it as so.

Or if you would like a specific help on any topic, we are here to send a private message to.

The board is not ideal, but it is what it is.

Keep in touch.

An excellent summary of what the Chritianity Forum should (and indeed is) about.

Have you (Siochain) been saved recently?

Please feel free to email me or any of the other Christians on the Forum.

lostexpectation

what about non practicing catholics?

Dades

BrianCalgary wrote:

The board is not ideal, but it is what it is.

Reminds me of the real world.

Zombrex

The Atheist wrote:

Reminds me of the real world.

What is this "real world" you speak off? What is the URL for it?

UU

Actually I think it's quite nice that Christians and non-Christians can actually sit down and discuss religious (and non-religious) matters together. It's a rare occurance. Debating and questioning is very important especially regarding faith. Faith needs to be questioned and challenged in my opinion because if it isn't blind and (even dangerous) dogmas occur.

Of course, discrimination of any kind and hate speech should not be allowed and sometimes people really need to agree to disagree. But if the Christian thread was just a biased opinion by Christians then little progress would be made in terms of democracy. So it is equally important to accept and see others' points of view even if you don't agree entirely with them.

Regards,

Daniel

robindch

Wicknight wrote:

What is this "real world" you speak off? What is the URL for it?

Is it this one?

Dades

Wicknight wrote:

What is this "real world" you speak off? What is the URL for it?

Congratulations Wicknight. You have won a trip to THE ISLAND...

Sandwich

Why not have a new board "Christians v. Atheists" where those who want to could bash away to their hearts content. Then moderate the "Christianity" board to be just that, without hijacking, and discuss Christianity.

Dave!

This is really getting ridiculous.......