Inhert ammo..

StewieGriffin07

Hi,
I just want to know what are the irish laws about getting Inhert ammo off ebay? Or basically anywhere off the net...

Sparks

Inhert ammo?

rrpc

I presume as you obviously do that he means inert ammo, as ebay do not allow any ammunition or firearms to be sold on their sites.

Remember the chap who was selling cartridge cases last year?

bullets

rrpc wrote:

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Remember the chap who was selling cartridge cases last year?

If your talking bout the same story I remember it well.

That was a good read. He really gave ebay a good run.
As much as he tried to explain to the people in the power
that what he was selling was inert/dead/not dangerous/not classified as ammo
they just would not listen.


~B

Citizen_Erased

Presumably they took up no action against this because well
Hmm
or
Woah
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As for the law in Ireland , you can have a deactivated fire arm on permission from your local super but I don't know the law about inert rounds. In all honesty I would presume that if you are talking about one or two ornamentle things here , it isn't going to matter. But stay tuned for the real laws from someone who knows for sure...

Our man in Havana

He is a cheeky bugger:

ATTN EBAY: Censor-bots, PC Police, etc. Do not remove this auction. This grenade and is INERT. it can never be made into a live item, It has been rendered incapable of being made live again by it's inherent construction of having a hole in the bottom and the fuze is discharged. It is also filled with an inert substance which prevents it from being reactivated. This is being sold for it's collectable value only. As such, this auction is not a "prohibited item" and conforms to your user agreement.

bullets

I have not tried to buy any off ebay but I have been tempted.
Did not want to chance having anything seized by Customs
and have a fuss.

I love brass and would love to get my hands on those framed
displays where you have inert rounds on display that you can
hang on your wall.

I'm proabably going off topic now but cant resist............
Not sure what the law is now but there are Loads of "Brass Collectors"
In Ireland and you often find Big Brass and inert Rounds or Drill rounds
with holes drilled into them at many of the antique fairs in Ireland.
(Got a Nice Bren Gun Oil Container last time I was at one)
They charge and arm and a leg for the Belted Ammo such as
the 7.62 belts. The Local Army Bargain surplus stores still
sell them.

around 92/93 when I was in the reserves nobody gave a damn
if you pocketed whatever brass you fired but something changed
around 96-97 where all of a sudden after each shoot we had to declare
that we had pocketed no brass and there was random searches to make
sure we did not. Maybe the law changed around then or maybe
they were becoming more safety aware and making sure nobody took
home live ammo.

As I teenager I used to collect brass and bits and bobs.
I have a 150mm Shell thats about 3-4ft High with a date
of 1915 on it got if valued about 15 years ago at having a value
of around 600 Irish pounds. It was given to by Gran Aunt by an Army
Cadet and was in the family for years and was used as an umbrella stand.

Have two 40mm Anti Aircraft shells at either side of my fireplace.

My Penholder in work consists of ten linked .50cal shells where I place
my Pens and Biros into the empty shells.

My Business Card holder is a tray of 9mm shells where I place the cards
in between them.

Draped over my Monitor as I type I have a 50rnd belt of 7.62 spend
blanks where the tops are crimped. (no powder in them)

I have seen pens made from 5.56 and 7.62 shells put back to back which
were pretty cools and have seen some shells converted into lighters
and also tools but placing your hot poker by the fireside.

I also have a selection of shells .22, .17, 9mm. .38, .303, .308, .30 06, .375
on display in my cubicle. Got an inert/used smoke grenade and a toy
life sized cigarette lighter of a 357 revolver.

Makes some people that I have not met in work nervous when the walk
into my cubicle for the first time and I have to end up explaining to them
the stuff is totally harmless.

One of the reasons I got the Nick Name "bullets" off my workmates.

sidneyreilly

Empty case is classed as a component of firearm under our laws so technically you need a fac for the caliber of brass:( Stupid but there it is, know someone who was actually done for it two years back:eek: To be truly legal one needs to drill a whole in the side of the case.

Sparks

know someone who was actually done for it two years back

Wasn't that passed from the Bray district court to the Wicklow district court and then thrown out on the grounds of being a waste of the court's time?

sidneyreilly

Correct, but only after being dragged out for over a year and after severe humiliation, mental trauma to his partner and his firearms confiscated. (got em back only recently)

Citizen_Erased

Sorry to bring this back again but I found this randomly browsing ebay. What are ebay playing at?
???
Now the definitely can be made live again etc and there are a few other auctions like this so what is ebays stance on this???

Rovi

Citizen_Erased wrote:

Sorry to bring this back again but I found this randomly browsing ebay. What are ebay playing at?
???
Now the definitely can be made live again etc and there are a few other auctions like this so what is ebays stance on this???

Like many (most?) of the individuals and bodies proffering earnest opinions on the subject of guns and shooting, eBay "know not of what they speak."

Vegeta

bullets wrote:

I have a 150mm Shell thats about 3-4ft High with a date
of 1915 on it got if valued about 15 years ago at having a value
of around 600 Irish pounds. It was given to by Gran Aunt by an Army
Cadet and was in the family for years and was used as an umbrella stand.

Have two 40mm Anti Aircraft shells at either side of my fireplace.

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These are class especially the 150mm shell. Its so big you'd see it in a room and pass it off, wouldn't even register what it is. Very cool

Clare gunner

Simple way of deacting them is just drill a hole thru with a small drill bit in the case near the base or wherever.It is then totally useless,and you can hang it on the wall or whatever.I mean,you can buy in any army surplus shop here linkof 308 MG ammo no problem.All that I have seen have the holes in them.
So wouldnt be too worried about cartridge or shell collecting here.

astraboy

I have a lot of old brass, mainly 7.62 from firing the old FN rifle with the FCA. I have a few 5.56 too from recently firing the styer. When I was on my first recruit camp years ago I got a load of brass from the range after shooting, a few others did too I'm going to drill holes in the sides of all of them now! I also have a couple of .303 shells I found on the range. My old boss was ex-PDF and had a few massive shells(maybe 150mm? ) by the fireplace in his bar used to hold pokers etc. They looked class. He had several othertypes of shells on bookshelves too, large shells polished up make nice decoration!

StewieGriffin07

[QUOTE=

I'm proabably going off topic now but cant resist............
Not sure what the law is now but there are Loads of "Brass Collectors"
In Ireland and you often find Big Brass and inert Rounds or Drill rounds
with holes drilled into them at many of the antique fairs in Ireland.
(Got a Nice Bren Gun Oil Container last time I was at one)
They charge and arm and a leg for the Belted Ammo such as
the 7.62 belts. The Local Army Bargain surplus stores still
sell them.
.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for the info, Thats a good story you got there... My bad i did mean inert..