Experiences of NLP that you'd like to share?

DublinWriter

Has anyone got any experiences of NLP that they would like to share, either as practitioner or patient?

Dickburn

Yes, I have had very bad experiences with a master trainer named (name removed). Not sure if I should go into detail here. Why are you asking the question?

p.pete

Dickburn wrote: »

Not sure if I should go into detail here.

Please don't, unless you omit names completely, cheers

Kooli

Is NLP really classified under psychology?

I would have thought it was more like...eh...how can I be polite here...well, let's say 'life coaching' given a misleadingly scientific name.

Dickburn

Kooli wrote: »

Is NLP really classified under psychology?

I would have thought it was more like...eh...how can I be polite here...well, let's say 'life coaching' given a misleadingly scientific name.

NLP is completely unproven scientificly although ask any one who has used it is it any good and does it get results and the answer will mostly be Yes

DublinWriter

Dickburn wrote: »

NLP is completely unproven scientificly although ask any one who has used it is it any good and does it get results and the answer will mostly be Yes

True, but it does have roots in academia as Grinder was a professor of linguistics and Bandler was a graduate of Computer Science.

I think that all the subsequent commercialism of NLP and the in-fighting between the Grinder and Bandler camps meant that it would never be respected in the field of psychology.

As for getting results, I'd have to say that I've yet to come across a more successful 'toolbag' than NLP for treating phobias, compulsions and such various mild complaints. I'd leave the heavy stuff, such as schizophrenia and psychosis to the licenced experts for now.

Bernard Black

I think that NLP is getting a growing reputation in the United States due to the rising popularity of the once underground society of PUAs(Pick Up Artists)Ross Jeffries the man who many credit as the founding member used NLP and advertised it as a very powerful yet dangerous psychological tool.By all accounts it seemed to be very effective.

Myksyk

Interesting article here

Gibs

Myksyk wrote: »

Interesting article here

r3nu4l

Good topic DW! I have to say that I'm interested but wary of NLP. Unfortunately while people like Tony Robbins are incredibly brilliant motivational speakers, some of their claims regarding NLP are suspect imo.

On one of his 'Personal Power' CDs Robbins claims to have cured a heroin addict of his addiction in 30 minutes, using NLP. If this really was the case and if NLP was so great then wouldn't we have hundreds of practitioners in the drugs clinics? Wouldn't it be a cheaper alternative to methadone? Wouldn't NLP be used in prisons?

Of course, people like Tony Robbins would claim that NLP will work only when the person truly accepts a need for change. This definitely has merit as we all know that quite often behaviours can only change once the person exhibiting the behaviour also wants to change that behaviour.

As DW says, I think NLP does have its uses. I also feel that motivational life coaches have a role in society but they should not be confused with psychologists or psychiatrists.

This is why, a few months ago I Started a campaign to have a 'life management' style forum created. Others have had the idea since and also tried to have it created to no avail Until then, topics such as NLP are possibly best suited here

Dickburn

r3nu4l wrote: »

Good topic DW! I have to say that I'm interested but wary of NLP. Unfortunately while people like Tony Robbins are incredibly brilliant motivational speakers, some of their claims regarding NLP are suspect imo.

On one of his 'Personal Power' CDs Robbins claims to have cured a heroin addict of his addiction in 30 minutes, using NLP. If this really was the case and if NLP was so great then wouldn't we have hundreds of practitioners in the drugs clinics? Wouldn't it be a cheaper alternative to methadone? Wouldn't NLP be used in prisons?

Did you know steam power was first invented by the Romans thousands of years ago?

The reason it didn't take hold was it didn't fit into everything else that was happening in their society, for example one reason was if they had machines to do all the work what would they do with all the slaves!

One thing you learn about in NLP is the Ecology of things. Imagine, you've graduated from college then you get a job and for decades you work away and add to the substance of your field, then one day someone comes along and tells you there is a new and far better way of doing what you're trying to achieve and it's completely different to the way you are doing it, would you just walk away and accept that?

NLP is now far more widespread and know to the general public but I suspect it will take even longer till it's fully accepted

p.pete

I'm walking away, you can do the farming now Dickburn

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I promise that made sense after 10 hours of drinking...

Dickburn

I always had faith in you P. Pete even when no one else did

DublinWriter

Dickburn wrote: »

NLP is now far more widespread and know to the general public but I suspect it will take even longer till it's fully accepted

There's a lot of good stuff in NLP, but it's when you have scary cockmonkeys like Anthony Robbins leaping aboard the bandwagon and being allowed to do so because they are paying millions in royalties to certain individual cokehead founders of NLP that you begin to see the overall wisdom in separating the medium from the messenger.

NLP in its current form will never return to the bosom of academia from whence it first sprang because it's become tainted by pop-psychology and it's attendant gurus.

martinl

Hi Mark John, thank you for posting this information.

I had a quick look at it and it seems to be mainly targeted at competitive sports people. Is this assumption correct?

I'm just wondering as I work with various individuals that want to get generally fit, loose a bit of weight, but are not planning to compete as such.
It might be interesting for myself for long distance running, triathlon and some triathletes and rowers I know

Martin