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river runs deep

  • 21-04-2007 6:31am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭


    Had a super sick horrible session tonight. Anyways here's a tough decision from it.

    Villan hasn't been at the table that long. Seems unremarkable, too loose, not super spwey though. 45/12/1.7 over 100 hands.

    Stacks:

    me (But): $800
    villan (BB): $530
    SB: $50


    I open raise KJ to $16 on the button, SB and BB both call.

    Flop comes: Js 4d 6h [pot: $48]
    SB shorty minbets, Villan calls and I whack it up to $36 with my top pair.
    Both players call (SB is all in).

    Turn is Th [$155]
    check, check

    River is Kd [$155]
    checked again and I bet $110. Villan raises to $300 total. Hero??

    $190 to call, wtf do I do?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    i think it's highly unlikey he's bluffing a worse hand here, but i usually still call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    yeah, I wouldn't fold cause I'm a big cs.

    post up that other hand from the tilt monkey, that could be interesting...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    Especially for you. Do you know who he is?

    ***** Hand History for Game 5895397871 *****
    $ 400 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Friday, April 20, 20:07:18 ET 2007
    Table Table 128279 (Real Money)
    Seat 5 is the button
    Total number of players : 5
    Seat 1: dinpikslikke ( $ 482.40 USD )
    Seat 6: Protzki ( $ 875.71 USD )
    Seat 5: lolImAmerican ( $ 1,082.54 USD )
    Seat 2: OneStepCloser ( $ 520 USD )
    Seat 3: oceansapart ( $ 458 USD )
    Protzki posts small blind [$ 2 USD].
    dinpikslikke posts big blind [$ 4 USD].
    ** Dealing down cards **
    Dealt to lolImAmerican [ 4h 5h ]
    OneStepCloser folds.
    oceansapart raises [$ 16 USD]
    lolImAmerican calls [$ 16 USD]
    Protzki folds.
    dinpikslikke folds.
    ** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, 8s, 5c ]
    oceansapart bets [$ 28 USD]
    lolImAmerican calls [$ 28 USD]
    ** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
    oceansapart checks.
    lolImAmerican bets [$ 65 USD]
    oceansapart raises [$ 190 USD]
    lolImAmerican is all-In.
    oceansapart is all-In.
    ** Dealing River ** [ Td ]
    oceansapart shows [ Qd, Qc ]two pairs, Queens and Fives.
    lolImAmerican shows [ 4h, 5h ]three of a kind, Fives.
    lolImAmerican wins $ 624.54 USD from side pot #1 with three of a kind, Fives.
    lolImAmerican wins $ 920 USD from the main pot with three of a kind, Fives.
    #Game No : 5895401543


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    lol. standard. no idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,434 ✭✭✭cardshark202


    Hand 1 I call the price is too good.
    Hand 2 Easy money


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭SeeMoreBut


    lol. standard. no idea.

    What part of the 2nd hand was standard??

    The calling preflop raise??

    The calling of having 3rd pair with not straight or flush draws??

    You must mean when he catches some luck on the turn.

    If he keeps playing that he will be like an atm machine as luck only last so long


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,696 ✭✭✭Hectorjelly


    Hand 1 he might have a worse 2 pair I suppose


    I think PL may of been joking when he said standard, allthough with kids today you never know!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,296 ✭✭✭valor


    Hand 1 I call. Id Raise more on the flop probably

    Hand 2 play is fine


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,764 ✭✭✭DeadParrot


    Hand one...is strange, unlikely he backed into a str8 given his preflop and flop play. I'm on set or over pair, overpair the most likely. Have to call the river given the odds.

    Hand 2...I don't know what to say, you run goot. Though his call of your push is a bit weird


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    pf's a little loose, but it's not a big deal, rest is fine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Ste05


    Both seem fine here too, hand 2 in isolation can look odd but in the flow of a session this could be fine.

    I'd also call hand 1 and expect to lose alot, but mneh...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,394 ✭✭✭robinlacey


    hand one i'd probably call but i wouldn't expect to be ahead a huge amount.

    hand two looks normal to me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    SeeMoreBut wrote:
    What part of the 2nd hand was standard??

    The calling preflop raise??

    The calling of having 3rd pair with not straight or flush draws??

    You must mean when he catches some luck on the turn.

    If he keeps playing that he will be like an atm machine as luck only last so long

    So you are the famous Oceansapart?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Hand 1 he might have a worse 2 pair I suppose


    I think PL may of been joking when he said standard, allthough with kids today you never know!

    I don't think he would likely check raise a worse 2 pair?

    I'd find it very very hard to call in this spot, would have to be againest a complete nutball who was just very random.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lorax


    Not sure if I'd call hand 1, would be thinking am I up against AQ -would explain his check raising, how did it go anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭AmarilloFats


    im all for opening up calling ranges in the blinds...
    when 100bb deep I basically just call with Pairs.
    Why call with 54s here?!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    cause we're deep, on the button, and the villain will stack off. and they're soooted of course.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 910 ✭✭✭AmarilloFats


    Sorry yes on button I thought it was from the blinds...
    125Bb ain't deep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭SeeMoreBut


    pok3rplaya wrote:
    So you are the famous Oceansapart?

    No.

    You really want to know who that person is don't you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    SeeMoreBut wrote:
    What part of the 2nd hand was standard??

    The calling preflop raise??

    The calling of having 3rd pair with not straight or flush draws??

    You must mean when he catches some luck on the turn.

    If he keeps playing that he will be like an atm machine as luck only last so long

    why did u bump a 2/3day old thread to say that if you're not oceansapart?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭SeeMoreBut


    Maybe I know who is he or she is??

    Maybe I was talking to oceans and they said did you see the hand about me so i made a comment.

    Did you think of that??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    nope.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40 intercepter


    Hand 1 is a fold.

    Hand 2. Very odd call to be calling a raise with rags. Why call flop bet with 3rd pair and only 6 outs ? Turn is standard as you hit a lucky turn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Hand 1 is a fold.

    Hand 2. Very odd call to be calling a raise with rags. Why call flop bet with 3rd pair and only 6 outs ? Turn is standard as you hit a lucky turn.

    cause you're goot a lot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    SeeMoreBut wrote:
    Maybe I know who is he or she is??

    Maybe I was talking to oceans and they said did you see the hand about me so i made a comment.

    Did you think of that??

    So is it you, or are you a friend? I'm intrigued.

    Everyone else seems happy with the hand. Do you still think it's bad?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,433 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭smurph


    Hand 1 he might have a worse 2 pair I suppose


    I think PL may of been joking when he said standard, allthough with kids today you never know!


    LMAO I know them young'un's:D :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    Whoever he is, I really have to lauge when I see him get all his friends to reginster just so they can all come and tell me how bad I play.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    pok3rplaya wrote:
    Whoever he is, I really have to lauge when I see him get all his friends to reginster just so they can all come and tell me how bad I play.

    sure we can do that for you already....have you come out of your downswing yet?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    Nope I gave up poker last night.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,720 ✭✭✭El Stuntman


    pok3rplaya wrote:
    Nope I gave up poker last night.

    seriously?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,004 ✭✭✭pok3rplaya


    Yeah I'm out of the game till today at the earliest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭SeeMoreBut


    I didn't know 2005 was yesterday.

    If I registered yesterday then they clock must be broken.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,079 ✭✭✭smurph


    SeeMoreBut wrote:
    I didn't know 2005 was yesterday.

    If I registered yesterday then they clock must be broken.


    I love you nickname
    Is It SeeMoreBut or talk through your arse!!!!!

    Maybe you have posted on the poker forum before, fair enough, but you obviously post on alot of other forums on Boards, Football, etc., etc., so the 2005 thing is irrelevant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,362 ✭✭✭Hitman Actual


    Is it Amaru?


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