Some hands

ianmc38

Havnt posted any in a while. None overly interesting.

All 6 max 1/2

In 1:

I open KQs to 8 from UTG+1. CO calls. Decent TAG. Seen him cold call JJ-AA preflop a few times. Also calls with hands like 57s/78s etc. We both ahve stacks of 300.

Flop (19)

Kc Qc Ts

I check. He bets 16.

Plans for the rest of the hand?

Hand 2:

Villain 1 OTB is ok TAG, 20/13 ish. Villain 2 is a pretty bad regular 25/12 or so. I open KK to 8 UTG+1. Button calls and SB calls. Effective stacks of 200.

Flop (25)

8c6c6d

I lead for 16. Button makes its 34. SB calls.

Call/Raise/Fold?

Hand 3:

Unknown limps UTG. Everyone else limps I limp KTo OTB.

Flop (12)

Kh Th 8s

SB bets 8. UTG makes it 16. I make it 48. SB shoves and UTG instacalls. SB is good thnking player who's been 3 betting and 4 betting the shít out of me on 3 different tables.

Is this an instafold or an instacall?

valor

drunk

#1 i need a reason to check there. as played i would cr and call a shove. i think your check is bad though

#2 i would call and see what happens, folding is second. 3 betting is redic

#3 i never limp, i love raising here if everybody limps picking up the money pf or most of time on the flop rocks

as played i call

AmarilloFats

Hand 1:
I think the hand plays easier if you lead this type of flop..
and I don't really like cr-ing this flop..
now that you have..I make it 50..Buty ugh..that don't feel to good neither.
Maybe just call after you've checked...
But lead it.

hand 2:
the SB' call is alot more scarey than the buttons raise, but if he's bad this could be any PP any club/str8 draw.This is a great flop for your hand against 2 opp's...With the reads you've given (is SB villain 2)..I think u shud
raise to 110!ish

hand 3:
I call here. lots of draws.top 2..not deepstacked..
I raise here pre flop also..

Ste05

Hand 1: I would play this quite conservatively, if he's very interested in this board I think it looks like he has trips, I think how I played it would depend on history with the Villain, I would have probably lead the flop too.

Hand 2: I think I would call for House value, surely one of these guys have an 8 and should stack off 100% of the time if a K hits, possibly even both of them. Raising is just madness. Folding is probably fine, although with the tiny raise and cold call, those are some pretty attractive odds.

Hand 3: I think a fold is in order here, but I'm currently running terribly and trying to remove some of the calling station habits I've somehow developed. I can't see them both being on draws, although having said that KK is unlikely, 1010 is possible but somewhat unlikely (especially seeing as we have a 10), 88 is a very clear possibility, K8 I would think is unlikely, so I think their collective range would be 1010, 88, J9 and a flush draw.

Interesting, although as a rule I don't like to get all-in in a limped pot with 2 others before me with just 2 pair. Also I'd have raised PF nearly 100% of the time, look at all those lovely free BB's!!

marius

Hand 1.

I probably raise to about 50/60 and fold to a reraise...

Hand 2.

Reraise about 100, call a push.

Hand 3.

I probably fold. There are lots of draws there but the instacall of the push by UTG would have me a little worried - i'd say you could be drawing to 4 outs....

phantom_lord

I rather fold 2 than raise.

Gholimoli

Hand one:
Why are you checking the flop?
I don’t like it at all.
If you are planning to check raise I dislike it even more unless you have been doing plenty of check rising .
Lead the flop and start building.
As played raise him .

Hand 2:
I think I prefer a check on this flop as oppose to the first hand.
There are a lot of draws out there correct but against two opponents on that bored I rather take the passive approach here.
I think folding is best line here.
If you call you will have to check almost any none K card on the turn and will prob have to fold to any +half pot sized bet.

Hand 3:
What are the stacks?
Whats the other limper in the hand like, would he call of his stack with a draw,TPGK ?
I think you can afford to call here.

AmarilloFats

Gholimoli wrote:

Hand 2:
I think I prefer a check on this flop as oppose to the first hand.
There are a lot of draws out there correct but against two opponents on that bored I rather take the passive approach here.
I think folding is best line here.
If you call you will have to check almost any none K card on the turn and will prob have to fold to any +half pot sized bet.

I see the merits of checking paired flops with overpairs..but I don't like checking this one.
Sure if you make a raise here you're annoucing your hand but so what -.
What's TAGs range here?
Would Tag otb call w/ a 6 in his hand ?- would he raise with TT 99 or a draw here?
On flops like this people over value hands like 77 55 99 TT.

phantom_lord

AmarilloFats wrote:

I see the merits of checking paired flops with overpairs..but I don't like checking this one.
Sure if you make a raise here you're annoucing your hand but so what -.
What's TAGs range here?
Would Tag otb call w/ a 6 in his hand ?- would he raise with TT 99 or a draw here?
On flops like this people over value hands like 77 55 99 TT.

button has just raised us. and the sb cold called, kk looks toast.

marius

phantom_lord wrote:

button has just raised us. and the sb cold called, kk looks toast.

Button raise could be anything, our bet looks like a c bet which would be the norm on a paired board. Button raises to try to push us off. SB is the only hand im worried about here but his range is AA-99 any flush draw and possibly smaller pairs. We are only behind AA and 88 (possibly 66!).I think KK is in o.k shape here.

Edit: Flush draw really not in SB range....still in ok shape here i feel though.

El Stuntman

ianmc38 wrote:

Havnt posted any in a while. None overly interesting.

All 6 max 1/2

In 1:

I open KQs to 8 from UTG+1. CO calls. Decent TAG. Seen him cold call JJ-AA preflop a few times. Also calls with hands like 57s/78s etc. We both ahve stacks of 300.

Flop (19)

Kc Qc Ts

I check. He bets 16.

Plans for the rest of the hand?

Raise to 64 now

Fold to a shove. If he calls and a blank hits bet 3/4 pot on the turn.

ianmc38 wrote:

Hand 2:

Villain 1 OTB is ok TAG, 20/13 ish. Villain 2 is a pretty bad regular 25/12 or so. I open KK to 8 UTG+1. Button calls and SB calls. Effective stacks of 200.

Flop (25)

8c6c6d

I lead for 16. Button makes its 34. SB calls.

Call/Raise/Fold?

Yuck. the donkey prolly has a 6

Call the 18 more and make sure a King hits the turn

ianmc38 wrote:

Hand 3:

Unknown limps UTG. Everyone else limps I limp KTo OTB.

Flop (12)

Kh Th 8s

SB bets 8. UTG makes it 16. I make it 48. SB shoves and UTG instacalls. SB is good thnking player who's been 3 betting and 4 betting the shít out of me on 3 different tables.

Is this an instafold or an instacall?

need info on stacks, prolly call if we are 100BB deep.

given the PF action I don't expect to see a set here

JhQh and K8?? Call

Gholimoli

AmarilloFats wrote:

I see the merits of checking paired flops with overpairs..but I don't like checking this one.
Sure if you make a raise here you're annoucing your hand but so what -.
What's TAGs range here?
Would Tag otb call w/ a 6 in his hand ?- would he raise with TT 99 or a draw here?
On flops like this people over value hands like 77 55 99 TT.

The problem is you are putting your self in a position to lose a lot of money if you are behind and win a little if you are ahead.

He can easily have a 6 in his hand and so can the SB.
If you bet ,the pot will get bigger making it a mistake for you not to carry on with your hand in the future streets when there is betting(obviously unless the betting is big).
Also you have no idea what they have,and on that bored you have **** load of scare cards and a good button can take advantage of that when he has them by value betting and by bluffing when he doesn’t have it.

AmarilloFats

if villains aren't going to commit lots more money with draws and worse made hands then sure - just call.

If you raise to let's say 110 here You SHOULD be making your opp's life much easier. What an easy decision they should have- you've put your head on the chopping block so to speak...
they should fold jj TT draws...call or all in with AA 88 or any 6.

BUT - if you have full faith in them to make a really crap decision with Kc9c or TT 99 then raise ..(Especially if this is party).

actually maybe I've come around to your way of thinking..I dunno..arrgh

Captain Tom

hand 1: i dont like checking this flop w/o a plan or in general.as played i doubt you can c/raise and get it in with the best of it 150bb deep.unless he has something like ATc/JTc.maybe flat call and lead blank turn.leading flop makes the hand much easier to play.

hand 2: calling>folding>raising.when sb also calls button probably wont take another shot on the turn is he's bluffing.

hand 3: i think i call here.you're only really behind if the sb has 88 an there's lots of combo draw hands he can push with.

Lissavalley

Hand 1 I bet this flop approximately 100% of the time on such a drawy board.

Hand 2, I reraise, you'll be against 99. TT a lot here. Hand Im worried about is 88. Calling amd re evaluating turn isnt bad either.

Hand 3. I probably fold. Marginal though.

valor

raising #2 is horrible unless you have specific reads

AmarilloFats

valor wrote:

raising #2 is horrible unless you have specific reads

Is "i don't know them therefore they're proabably rubbish and will call with lots of draws and smaller PP's" Specific enough??

Captain Tom

AmarilloFats wrote:

Is "i don't know them therefore they're proabably rubbish and will call with lots of draws and smaller PP's" Specific enough??

assuming an unknown is rubbish is naive and dangerous.

AmarilloFats

fair enough LOL
but OP said SB was bad..and surely it's this cold call that would be most scarey??!!
BTW - I believe a PUSH is + ev here.

Gholimoli

AmarilloFats wrote:

BTW - I believe a PUSH is + ev here.

i would have to assume this is a joke ,right?

El Stuntman

AmarilloFats wrote:

fair enough LOL
but OP said SB was bad..and surely it's this cold call that would be most scarey??!!
BTW - I believe a PUSH is + ev here.

only if you are IanMc and you can use your voodoo powers to summon a King on the turn

phantom_lord

while whispering, "u complete me" of course.

AmarilloFats

I'm Serious. really.

ianmc38

Hand 1 - I lead the flop most of the time, but I didnt love my hand on that board. So wanted to keep the pot as small as possible. I c/ced a small turn bet and folded to a river overbet.

Hand 2 - I just called the bet. Turn and river were clubs and villain 2 showed a straight flush after we'd folded. Villain 1 had QQ.

Hand 3 - I called. SB had K8 and UTG had JhQh and MYWG.