Has the C/R gone full circle?

Lazare

Has anyone else found the Check raise has lost it's effectiveness as a bluff?
Against bad players it still works, but I've found good players looking me up a lot lighter lately.

luckylucky

hmmm i'm a bit piddled right now but i have been thinking the automatic bet when you hit the set is becoming more believable so I guess this would imply that the check raise is becoming less believable, all of this is generalising but yeah I think you have a point.

RoundTower

players have got smarter, more perceptive, and better, so they probably call your bluffs of all sorts less often

Mellor

metagame like this is often cyclic
if the CR loses its appearance of strength,
then people will have to start ony using it when strong,
it will then regain its strength, and be useful as a bluff,
rinse, and repeat
metagame!

BobSloane

checkraising is for homosexuals

Macspower

checkraising has become standard issue for a donkey with any part of the flop............... you know they are there with their smug grin waiting on your c bet...

Mac

Goodluck2me

Macspower wrote:

checkraising has become standard issue for a donkey with any part of the flop............... you know they are there with their smug grin waiting on your c bet...

Mac

yeah burlo cash games. 1-2. effective stacks are 200. I raise to 15 preflop with AA UTG, SB calls. flop is 78Tr, he checks i bet 30 he goes all in i call. he shows JTo.

Ste05

I find that a C/R bluff needs a turn lead to work more nowadays although I rarely C/R bluff a solid player.