Roland De Wolfe's MTT Strategy?

ditpoker

he is not a luckbox, and has won 2 major titles, nearly three at the Irish open. He somehow gets a big stack infront of him. I dont think its blind agression, there must be method to his madness... anyway care to share their guesses as to what might be included in his strategy, where does he raise from, whats his range?

BCB said in his IO report that he was owned by De Wolfe who kept getting raises in ahead of him. are these 3 bb raises, or more, or...!?

ntlbell

ditpoker wrote:

he is not a luckbox, and has won 2 major titles, nearly three at the Irish open. He somehow gets a big stack infront of him. I dont think its blind agression, there must be method to his madness... anyway care to share their guesses as to what might be included in his strategy, where does he raise from, whats his range?

BCB said in his IO report that he was owned by De Wolfe who kept getting raises in ahead of him. are these 3 bb raises, or more, or...!?

He doesn't suffer from TLS, he takes races early on and builds quickly.

He seems to pick on specific types of players from what i've seen and it's relentless but not mindless aggression.

I think he's a lot like Andy black but without the anger mangment issues.

The Tourist

I was wondering about this myself. One thing I have noticed from the highlight shows on tv is that he seems very willing to gamble in probable 50/50 situations for his whole stack.

jobless

ntlbell wrote:

He doesn't suffer from TLS, he takes races early on and builds quickly.

He seems to pick on specific types of players from what i've seen and it's relentless but not mindless aggression.

I think he's a lot like Andy black but without the anger mangment issues.

what does TLS mean?....

shoutman

Tournement Life Syndrome, its the name given when people take into consideration their placing in the tourney when making a decision, ie. I would call but if I do and lose i'm out of the tourney as oppossed to calling because it is the mathamatically right play to make.

ditpoker

tls = tournament life syndrome... being afraid of being knocked out.

by relentless aggression, what do you mean? constantly raising the same players blinds, every round of the button? frequent re-raises preflop. calling bets and asking questions on flops!?

surely this type of strategy is hard to adapt to a shortstack game?

Blip

tls = tournament life syndrome... being afraid of being knocked out.

Tenderly loving stack.....lol:D

shoutman

I could be wrong but my impression of him is that he likes to accummulate a big stack early on or go home early, and once he has a big stack it is hard to play against him without the goods because of his relentless aggression, i'd say that is a key factor to why he wins but rarely you see him limping into the money.

Solksjaer

TLS - This is where you hit a straight flush to the Queen but fold to an all in bet as there is no way you are being knocked out of this tournament in level 2 with the idiot end of a straight flush.

ditpoker

Solksjaer wrote:

TLS - This is where you hit a straight flush to the Queen but fold to an all in bet as there is no way you are being knocked out of this tournament in level 2 with the idiot end of a straight flush.

what are you doing in the pot with 8h9h... fold preflop... fold to resistance on the river... standard.

nicnicnic

He will gamble for half or 1/3 of his stack but tightens up significantly if his tournament is at stake.


you can see he really goes with his reads and he absolutely hops off his draws on the flop.

he is also constantly looking for information from his opponents. when he came directly to my right on Sunday there was about 32 players and we were heading for 14k at 29 players. he starts talking about how 10k is a lot of money asks me what i do and is this a lot of money to me. I copped straight away what he is at. I tell him i do some part-time teaching and that 10k is a huge amount for me as i won in in a free-roll but 14k would be unreal as i could change the car and have a holiday. Three times in the next three orbits I came over the top of his bets. each time he says you must have a big hand I tell him a monster I'm not risking that 4k without the goods.

The air hand occurred then and i think he knew i was playing him. The biggest piece of luck De Wolfe had was the technical difficulties at 2.45 am on Sunday night he had dropped from 1.5milion to about 340k and the Fox had just shown him a bluff in a hand where he had 180k in the pot. I think he was expecting us to be frightened to get our chips in with 25k jumps in the money and was really shocked to see us making moves on him and giving him lots of verbal to Boot. I know when someone is spent at a table and he was delighted to get out of there that night.

When we were down to six just before i went out Dave O' Call had told me De Wolfe used to be a regular in the crypto sixpacs where i play. I told him he was entering my domain as this is just a sixpac now and this is where i make my living. He just looked at me funnily and said "your not a teacher then" I told him not to believe every thing he was told on a poker table

ditpoker

nicnicnic wrote:

He will gamble for half or 1/3 of his stack but tightens up significantly if his tournament is at stake.


you can see he really goes with his reads and he absolutely hops off his draws on the flop.

he is also constantly looking for information from his opponents. when he came directly to my right on Sunday there was about 32 players and we were heading for 14k at 29 players. he starts talking about how 10k is a lot of money asks me what i do and is this a lot of money to me. I copped straight away what he is at. I tell him i do some part-time teaching and that 10k is a huge amount for me as i won in in a free-roll but 14k would be unreal as i could change the car and have a holiday. Three times in the next three orbits I came over the top of his bets. each time he says you must have a big hand I tell him a monster I'm not risking that 4k without the goods.

The air hand occurred then and i think he knew i was playing him. The biggest piece of luck De Wolfe had was the technical difficulties at 2.45 am on Sunday night he had dropped from 1.5milion to about 340k and the Fox had just shown him a bluff in a hand where he had 180k in the pot. I think he was expecting us to be frightened to get our chips in with 25k jumps in the money and was really shocked to see us making moves on him and giving him lots of verbal to Boot. I know when someone is spent at a table and he was delighted to get out of there that night.

When we were down to six just before i went out Dave O' Call had told me De Wolfe used to be a regular in the crypto sixpacs where i play. I told him he was entering my domain as this is just a sixpac now and this is where i make my living. He just looked at me funnily and said "your not a teacher then" I told him not to believe every thing he was told on a poker table

nicnic... legend...

ntlbell

ditpoker wrote:

tls = tournament life syndrome... being afraid of being knocked out.

by relentless aggression, what do you mean? constantly raising the same players blinds, every round of the button? frequent re-raises preflop. calling bets and asking questions on flops!?

surely this type of strategy is hard to adapt to a shortstack game?

I wasn't specifically talking about a shortstack game, obviously it doesn't work with a shortstack as you don't have this type of room.

if he builds big early on which he seems to or go out very early.

if the question is how he keeps coming back from a short stack that's obvious, he's read the "how to win races" book.

pok3rplaya

nicnicnic wrote:

he is also constantly looking for information from his opponents. when he came directly to my right on Sunday there was about 32 players and we were heading for 14k at 29 players. he starts talking about how 10k is a lot of money asks me what i do and is this a lot of money to me. I copped straight away what he is at. I tell him i do some part-time teaching and that 10k is a huge amount for me as i won in in a free-roll but 14k would be unreal as i could change the car and have a holiday. Three times in the next three orbits I came over the top of his bets. each time he says you must have a big hand I tell him a monster I'm not risking that 4k without the goods.

This is v. impressive on both accounts. wp

ntlbell

nicnicnic wrote:

When we were down to six just before i went out Dave O' Call had told me De Wolfe used to be a regular in the crypto sixpacs where i play. I told him he was entering my domain as this is just a sixpac now and this is where i make my living. He just looked at me funnily and said "your not a teacher then" I told him not to believe every thing he was told on a poker table

how very Irish, legend nic!

AmarilloFats

LOL...wp nic

semibluff

brill nic, ive re-told your air hand to many people, and even those who dont have a clue bout poker are in awe. WP sir

nicnicnic

well TBH guys what's anyone gonna say. I think its pretty transparent what he is at.

Also the hand with no cards. I have received a lot of amazement from people at how I kept my cool and thought so fast. The answer is quite simple. Padraig Parkinson had told me a storey of the exact same thing happening to him while in the bar in the city west last year. So i knew exactly what to do

The Tourist

"He will gamble for half or 1/3 of his stack but tightens up significantly if his tournament is at stake."

Is that because he already had a large stack and could pick his fights? I get the impression he will gamble for his whole stack earlier on when everyone has roughly equal stacks.

ps this doesn't always make for a fun night out tho'!

pps how do you do those fancy pants quotes?

DeadParrot

Its such a damn shame that hand wasnt caught on camera

nicnicnic

The Tourist wrote:

Is that because he already had a large stack and could pick his fights?

The Tourist wrote:

yes this is where i ment he was gambling

nicnicnic

DeadParrot wrote:

Its such a damn shame that hand wasnt caught on camera

here's me telling Mike Mcclusky about it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzgGVwOFpqo

Its popping up on a few reviews of the open as well for instance par three i think, there calling it possible the biggest bluff ever

http://www.pokerroom.com/newsroom/news/?id=532

Scouser in Dub

thats genius and some balls

MrPillowTalk

lol at people anyone thinking Nic and Fox wouldnt be making moves, wp lads hard luck at the ft.

Killme00

jobless wrote:

what does TLS mean?....

its like PMS except for poker bitches..

bottom feeder

nicnicnic wrote:

I copped straight away what he is at. I tell him i do some part-time teaching and that 10k is a huge amount for me as i won in in a free-roll but 14k would be unreal as i could change the car and have a holiday. Three times in the next three orbits I came over the top of his bets. each time he says you must have a big hand I tell him a monster I'm not risking that 4k without the goods.

Nicky fu@kin classic..... go on ya legend...lol

a147pro

DeWoulfe's interview on the 1st day basically he says his edge is that he plays these buy ins all the time so he just doesn't care about the money. Against a rake of qualifiers who have battled through to their first or a rare large buy in event this has to be a huge edge in terms of making other people fold and stopping people taking pots at him. He doesn't care about going out on a huge bluff, draw, call whatever, or in particular to a race. Its not what it appears when you look at him and see that look in his eye that hes just a shocking gambler, he is obviously methodical as he gets away from the odd hand that shocking gamblers go broke on all the time.

RoundTower

sounds like he plays well enough that he doesnt have to think about "strategy" just playing well. Also he must be running good.

DeVore

Its easy to be casual about big buy-in tournaments when you are wearing a Full-Tilt badge...

DeV.

nicnicnic

Also re strategy I read somewhere it's enough to know how to win you can learn why your winning later.

I know its off topic but sounds good

a147pro

Being the Waterford coin-flips champion also helps (or should that be runner runner up?!)

AS_PokerKing

nicnicnic wrote:

The Tourist wrote:

Is that because he already had a large stack and could pick his fights?

The Tourist wrote:

yes this is where i ment he was gambling

I was watching the 2003 WSOP when Chris Moneymaker made so called the bluff of the century on Sammy Farha, they'd wanna be gettin over here to the IO and see boys playin with no cards....

Quality, best move i've ever heard of, how different it would have been if de wolfe said 2 words..." I call" lol

what would you have said to the dealer if he called or was it your own fault the cards were mucked or wat happened ???

very wp anyway

nicnicnic

AS_PokerKing wrote:

nicnicnic wrote:

The Tourist wrote:

what would you have said to the dealer if he called or was it your own fault the cards were mucked or wat happened ???

very wp anyway

ty


well the way the hand was reported was wrong he raised 36k in seat 3 from UTG and i pushed from seat 4 for 140k I had 7 rows of 20 1k chips lined up laterally in front of me the chips never entered the center. I put my cards to the left of my stack and when the dealer was sweeping in the other player's cards he leaned across and took mine as-well.

When the hand was over i let out a sigh of relief and said to the dealer ffs watch what your doing but ultimately no blame could be placed on the dealer here its 100% my responsibility to protect my cards. Expect me to use a card protector in future

Jesus Wept

nicnicnic wrote:

He will gamble for half or 1/3 of his stack but tightens up significantly if his tournament is at stake.


you can see he really goes with his reads and he absolutely hops off his draws on the flop.

he is also constantly looking for information from his opponents. when he came directly to my right on Sunday there was about 32 players and we were heading for 14k at 29 players. he starts talking about how 10k is a lot of money asks me what i do and is this a lot of money to me. I copped straight away what he is at. I tell him i do some part-time teaching and that 10k is a huge amount for me as i won in in a free-roll but 14k would be unreal as i could change the car and have a holiday. Three times in the next three orbits I came over the top of his bets. each time he says you must have a big hand I tell him a monster I'm not risking that 4k without the goods.

The air hand occurred then and i think he knew i was playing him. The biggest piece of luck De Wolfe had was the technical difficulties at 2.45 am on Sunday night he had dropped from 1.5milion to about 340k and the Fox had just shown him a bluff in a hand where he had 180k in the pot. I think he was expecting us to be frightened to get our chips in with 25k jumps in the money and was really shocked to see us making moves on him and giving him lots of verbal to Boot. I know when someone is spent at a table and he was delighted to get out of there that night.

When we were down to six just before i went out Dave O' Call had told me De Wolfe used to be a regular in the crypto sixpacs where i play. I told him he was entering my domain as this is just a sixpac now and this is where i make my living. He just looked at me funnily and said "your not a teacher then" I told him not to believe every thing he was told on a poker table.

I disagree, you are a teacher..


you f*%kin taught him a thing or two!

nicnicnic wrote:

well TBH guys what's anyone gonna say. I think its pretty transparent what he is at.

Also the hand with no cards. I have received a lot of amazement from people at how I kept my cool and thought so fast. The answer is quite simple. Padraig Parkinson had told me a storey of the exact same thing happening to him while in the bar in the city west last year. So i knew exactly what to do

So, you moved allin pf over his raise, had you seen what cards you had before they were mucked?

Did you realise your cards were mucked before or after you re-raised allin?

nicnicnic

The-Rigger wrote:

I disagree, you are a teacher..


you f*%kin taught him a thing or two!





So, you moved allin pf over his raise, had you seen what cards you had before they were mucked?

Did you realise your cards were mucked before or after you re-raised allin?

all is revealed in the post above yours incidentally I had Kc Jc