2 interesting hands from the IO (ME)

connie147

Two hands here from the main event. I won both but Im wondering if I could have extracted more chips from my opponnents. Your views would be appreciated.

Hand 1.
!st blind level, about 20 mins in. Scandie raises utg to 200, folded to me.(he has been in a few pots so far but no showdowns so no real reads only that he's active).He has about 11k. I (12k) am in the BB and look down at AA.
I dont want to lose my customer right now and with me ending the betting, I flat call. Flop--As-Qs-10h. I like the A on the flop but the texture is worrying.Im pretty sure he,ll bet it out so I check. He duly bets 350, I cr to 1050, he flat calls. Turn---10c to fill my boat. Now I,m thinking if I check here,It will look very suspicious so I bet 1,300 into a 2,400 pot ,hoping he'll do what a lot of scandies do and reraise.(im praying he has QQ). He folds:(

Like to know your opinions on all streets and the betsizing.

Hand2
I'm in the BB. blinds are 50-100. Hoki from boards(a new member but I dont know who he is at the time) is a PPP qualifier.He has been playing pretty tight but has started to open up a bit. and he raises my blind from mp.(raise is to 325). Now he also did this on the previous orbit ,I was the only caller and I snapped off his continuation bet on the flop that was 9 high.

His raise this time is folded to me in the BB again and I call with Qd-10d.(he had 9.5k, I have 13k). Flop comes K-J-9 rainbow. I check, he bets 550, I c/r to 1,500, he calls. Turn is a harmless 2 completing the rainbow.I lead out for 1,500 again hoping he has AK and wants to overplay it, but after a bit of a dwell up, he folds.

Again, opinions please on all streets as seen and betsizing.

AS_PokerKing

IMO...if someone check raises me, and then they come out betting on the next street its a sure sign that they have something, and you also did this to the scandie so Hoki probably picked up on this...if he bet the flop I would have checked to him again and more then likely he's gonna stab at it again...thats just my opinion

AS_PokerKing

IMO...if someone check raises me, and then they come out betting on the next street its a sure sign that they have something, and you also did this to the scandie so Hoki probably picked up on this...if he bet the flop I would have checked to him again and more then likely he's gonna stab at it again...thats just my opinion

AS_PokerKing

IMO...if someone check raises me, and then they come out betting on the next street its a sure sign that they have something, and you also did this to the scandie so Hoki probably picked up on this...if he bet the flop I would have checked to him again and more then likely he's gonna stab at it again...thats just my opinion

ditpoker

both are fine. in both cases maybe check the turn and hope he bets. if he checks almost min bet river for value.

you can never be wrong betting, and in either if he comes over the top you've disguised your hand well..

AS_PokerKing

IMO...if someone check raises me, and then they come out betting on the next street its a sure sign that they have something, and you also did this to the scandie so Hoki probably picked up on this...if he bet the flop I would have checked to him again and more then likely he's gonna stab at it again...thats just my opinion

ditpoker

lol @ AS_PokerKing's quadruple post...

Hyzepher

Hand 1

Nothing really wrong here but I don't think I would have c/r the flop. either bet out or call. c/r has two outcomes - shows your strength and he checks it down or folds to a bet on later streets OR walks you into the made straight and you are then hoping to make the boat. if you had called the 350 it would have been easier to disguise the house - it would have given you the option of letting him have a free card hoping he hit a flush or improve somewhat. His call of 1050 gives me the impression that he had part of the flop - maybe a flush draw but the bet of 1300 was obviously too big for him to risk.

Having said that your play was good and the differences I pointed out are just down to player style.

Hand 2

Here you basically do the same play as hand 1 and on a good table this will be noticed. especially as you had the nuts and could afford to be a little generous in a hope to reel him in.

DITTag

AS_PokerKing wrote:

IMO...if someone check raises me, and then they come out betting on the next street its a sure sign that they have something, and you also did this to the scandie so Hoki probably picked up on this...if he bet the flop I would have checked to him again and more then likely he's gonna stab at it again...thats just my opinion

Didn notice this post... Well said;)

connie147

Hyzepher wrote:

Hand 1

Nothing really wrong here but I don't think I would have c/r the flop. either bet out or call. c/r has two outcomes - shows your strength and he checks it down or folds to a bet on later streets OR walks you into the made straight and you are then hoping to make the boat. if you had called the 350 it would have been easier to disguise the house - it would have given you the option of letting him have a free card hoping he hit a flush or improve somewhat. His call of 1050 gives me the impression that he had part of the flop - maybe a flush draw but the bet of 1300 was obviously too big for him to risk.

Having said that your play was good and the differences I pointed out are just down to player style.

Hand 2

Here you basically do the same play as hand 1 and on a good table this will be noticed. especially as you had the nuts and could afford to be a little generous in a hope to reel him in.

I felt I had to reraise hand 1 asI cant give him a cheap card here as theres a flush draw and an obvious straight draw on the flop.I thought the bet of 1,300 into a 2,500 pot on the turn might look a bit week to him and invite a reraise. But I'm not sure, hense the post.

Gholimoli

Connie,
in hand one check raising indicates significant strenght.
and your hand is also very strong so your playing accourding to your holding.
i would prefer a lead here ,often you get raised and you can then flat call and play the turn.
when you did the check raise i rather a check on the turn.
a check on the turn looks like you wanted to move him of the hand on the flop and when that didnt work you have now given up .
there is a str/flush draw there and your hand would look like any of them if that missed if you check the turn.
if he has anything he often would bet there to protect his hand.
you can then flat call his bet and take it on to the river.
see how the hand pans out with betting on each street untill the river.
im not saying the above will happen 100% but its very likely to happen is he has anything .

Goodluck2me

well if the board brought the 2s you wouldnt really ask these questions. i dont mind the c-r at all, i probably would have led out on the flop though. i like your turn bet as if you check he is very likely to check behind and may hit his draw. you priced out the FD.

in hand two i definetly check the turn card and let him fill up on the river if needs be. if he checks behind on the turn he may think your turn check was weak/pot controlling then lead out on the river.

sikes

hand 1 is a lock hand, checking the turn is best and let him catch something. Its ok if it goes check/check the pot is big and he is drawing to a second best hand. Also a bet by you on the river can look like a steal and should get called a lot lighter than one of the turn.

Hoki

connie147 wrote:

Two hands here from the main event. I won both but Im wondering if I could have extracted more chips from my opponnents. Your views would be appreciated.

Hand2
I'm in the BB. blinds are 50-100. Hoki from boards(a new member but I dont know who he is at the time) is a PPP qualifier.He has been playing pretty tight but has started to open up a bit. and he raises my blind from mp.(raise is to 325). Now he also did this on the previous orbit ,I was the only caller and I snapped off his continuation bet on the flop that was 9 high.

His raise this time is folded to me in the BB again and I call with Qd-10d.(he had 9.5k, I have 13k). Flop comes K-J-9 rainbow. I check, he bets 550, I c/r to 1,500, he calls. Turn is a harmless 2 completing the rainbow.I lead out for 1,500 again hoping he has AK and wants to overplay it, but after a bit of a dwell up, he folds.

Again, opinions please on all streets as seen and betsizing.

In that first hand i raised i had Q Q , the second hand i had A J , as soon as you had check raised me i knew i was in trouble , may have called a small value bet after the turn but once u bet 1500 there was only one route i was going to take in that hand , good to know i made the right fold anyway

cardshark202

Hand 1 I re-raise preflop all the time vs an UTG raise cos he's more likely to have a hand that he wants to go to war with.

connie147

Gholimoli wrote:

Connie,
in hand one check raising indicates significant strenght.
and your hand is also very strong so your playing accourding to your holding.
i would prefer a lead here ,often you get raised and you can then flat call and play the turn.
when you did the check raise i rather a check on the turn.
a check on the turn looks like you wanted to move him of the hand on the flop and when that didnt work you have now given up .
there is a str/flush draw there and your hand would look like any of them if that missed if you check the turn.
if he has anything he often would bet there to protect his hand.
you can then flat call his bet and take it on to the river.
see how the hand pans out with betting on each street untill the river.
im not saying the above will happen 100% but its very likely to happen is he has anything .

Hi Eshan,
I tried to play the first hand like I had a flush draw, reraising his flop bet to try and make it look like I was playing a flush draw aggressively. I felt if I didnt follow up with a bet on the turn that he would smell a rat, and really I was hoping he hasd raised with QQ utg and might come over my weakish turn bet. Probably would have been better off checking that turn.