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Some questions for the people who know about poker?

  • 10-04-2007 1:25am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭


    Now ive already stated Im fairly new to poker have played In about four tournaments and always seem to make the money.

    Right here is a few question's. One day I was playing poker I was doing really well anyways the blinds were 750-1500, now say it was my turn I say raise, I put in 2500 everybody at the table im on says I cannot do that because I have to double the big blind (First round betting). Then its down to the final two table's one guy who I believe plays for a living does something like I have been trying to do all night the woman who said to me earlier I cant do that bet says the same to the guy who just made the bet he turns around and says no I dont becasue its only the first round betting who is right?

    Some guy said its not the dealers job to say if I put in to much that they should be colour coded they do be but sometimes I get mixed up so anyone clear that up for me?

    I know some rules are different but is there anywhere I can find out the rules of poker for in Ireland?

    Also if people dont really know the rules do you be embarrassed to ask the head guy a question?

    Can you ask for dealers to deal the tables if there are only two or three tables left with CPT?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    For the one when you had 150k more and didn't get change, well you don't really need to be told that ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,894 ✭✭✭✭phantom_lord


    Hoops1888 wrote:
    Matt I couldn't agree more mate. I have often seen two friends going to the bathroom and I player who is low on chips would give the other guy his chips crazy I know.
    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Hoops1888


    RasTa wrote:
    For the one when you had 150k more and didn't get change, well you don't really need to be told that ?

    Im was just giving an example of what happened to me during a tournament one day wasnt a question. Yes it was my fault although you would think someone would point it out rather than laugh if I ver noticed that I would say it stright away.

    Lord - Whats with the confussed sign. I have often seen guys going to the toilet and giving each other chips once again just an example of somethings I have seen going on.

    Anyways I was asked to put this here not in the Irish poker forum so if anyone can answer the questions with a ? would be helpful not pointing out the mistakes that I already know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,448 ✭✭✭Lazare


    Hoops1888 wrote:
    . One day I was playing with celtic poker

    There's were you went wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Hoops1888


    Will someone just answer my questions if you can.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭DapperGent


    I'm honestly having a pretty hard time understanding them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭Hoops1888


    Here we go one more time.

    Im in a game of poker the blinds are 750-1500 I say raise to 2500 (first round of betting) Im told I cant do that, it has to be double the big blind im later told on a different table I dont have to double the big blind because its only first round of betting who is right?

    Chips are colour coded but say I make a mistake and I say for example raise to 3,000 but I throw in one 1,000 + two 5,000 chips by mistake I meant to throw In three 1,000 is it the dealers job to point out to me that I put in to much even when ive announced 3,000 raise?

    I know poker rules sometimes are different but is there anywhere I can find out the rules of poker for playing in Ireland?

    Say im in the big blind I have 20,000 in already then a guy raises to 50,000 comes back around to me and I say raise I only put in the 30,000 then stick in another 75,000 is that not a string bet? I thought you have to push all the money in together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,754 ✭✭✭ianmc38


    1. A raise is always a minimum of double the bet regardless of the betting
    round.

    2. If you announce raise 3000 you get change. If you announce raise and throw in 6000 by accident, tough luck, it's your own fault. If you announce 3 and thrown in 6, the dealer should give you change of 3.

    3. Not sure where you can get a list. Google is your friend. Each card club has their own individual rules.

    4. No. You put in 30000 to call the bet. Then you put in your raise amount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Tails142


    nm =)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭The Sheriff 101


    Hoops1888 wrote:
    Here we go one more time.

    Im in a game of poker the blinds are 750-1500 I say raise to 2500 (first round of betting)
    .

    Every bet has to be double the last bet and you should never make your bets so small when the blinds are 750-1500 you bets should be closer to 5000 minimum.


    Hoops1888 wrote:
    Say im in the big blind I have 20,000 in already then a guy raises to 50,000 comes back around to me and I say raise I only put in the 30,000 then stick in another 75,000 .

    Again raise is too small


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 657 ✭✭✭BuChan


    :) .............


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,771 ✭✭✭carfax


    Hoops1888 wrote:

    I know some rules are different but is there anywhere I can find out the rules of poker for in Ireland?

    QUOTE]

    http://www.pokerireland.ie/index.php/special_interest/article_entry/new_to_the_game_tournament_rules_are_here/


  • Subscribers Posts: 32,859 ✭✭✭✭5starpool


    Hoops1888 wrote:
    Now ive already stated Im fairly new to poker have played In about four tournaments and always seem to make the money.

    Right here is a few question's. One day I was playing poker I was doing really well anyways the blinds were 750-1500, now say it was my turn I say raise, I put in 2500 everybody at the table im on says I cannot do that because I have to double the big blind (First round betting). Then its down to the final two table's one guy who I believe plays for a living does something like I have been trying to do all night the woman who said to me earlier I cant do that bet says the same to the guy who just made the bet he turns around and says no I dont becasue its only the first round betting who is right?

    Some guy said its not the dealers job to say if I put in to much that they should be colour coded they do be but sometimes I get mixed up so anyone clear that up for me?

    I know some rules are different but is there anywhere I can find out the rules of poker for in Ireland?

    Also if people dont really know the rules do you be embarrassed to ask the head guy a question?

    Can you ask for dealers to deal the tables if there are only two or three tables left with CPT?
    This is all fairly tough to understand as your use of punctuation and strucure is far from exemplary, but I will add my tuppence worth to the responses already given. This response is based on the general acepted norm in Irish poker.

    When you announce raise in poker, then as long as you say this before putting in any chips then your bet must be double the previous at a minimum, so in your example above when the BB is 1500 and you put in 2500 then you must make it 3000. If someone in your game does this for a living and they don't know the rules then either they have a very bad standard of living, or else they are liars.

    As said by others, there are no standard rules in Ireland or worldwide, but most places are very similiar. Google should get you a generic set of rules, most likely americanised, but in Ireland the string betting and minimum raise rules can be different to other places.

    If you put in too much by accident but son't say anything, then as long as it is a valid amount to raise to then the raise stands.

    You should never be embarrassed to ask if you don't know something as we all had to learn at some point, and the best person to ask in general is the organiser.

    If you ever spot people giving chips to others in the bathroom or elsewhere then you should tell the organiser that this happens, and I would strongly consider never going to an event by the same poepl again if there is not something done about it as regards security of chips on tables etc.

    Also, as a rule, if there are other options in your local area other than CPT then you should use them, as CPT have a terrible reputation amongst poker players who have experienced more than just CPT. The big numbers and apparantly big prizes may be alluring, but behind all this is the big profits and raping of the prizepool by the CPT themselves, and players get a very bad deal out of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,836 ✭✭✭connie147


    The mininimum bet you can make at any time is double the big blind or indeed, double the previous bet made. The only deviation from that is when somebody raises all in and they dont have enough to double it. (note for beginners---you should never just minimum raise because it gives your opponnent value to call with any two cards).

    The player who "plays for a living" that told you otherwise is obviously a bullshot artist trying to impress people.

    Once you clearly announce your raise, it doesnt matter what chips you throw in the pot by accident, your raise is only what you stated.(of course at self deal tourneys,experienced dich-heads will trty to take advantage of newbies which is what i suspect is happening to you).

    If you see chips being passed from one person to another during "visits to the toilets" etc etc, inform the tournament director immediately.This SHOULD result in both players being ejected from the tournament immediately.

    And finally,no matter where you come from in this fine country of ours, if you want to be serious about this game and have an enjoyable tournament experience, avoid CPT games like the plague. There are plenty of good operaters around the country like Green Joker Poker, Poker Events, Big Slick Poker JJP poker and many more I dont know of plus most of the card rooms / casinos give a decent game. Try them out or put your location on boards and a fellow member will direct you to the nearest game worth going to.

    Hope thats helpful.


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