Grindhouse

DirtyDog

Anyone any idea when this is opening here?

Dog.

patch

Next couple of weeks, not too sure.
I'm replying because I read an interview with Tarantino on aicn which stated that different cuts have been made for different countries.
I hope we don't wind up with a cut version....

Running Bing

patch wrote:

Next couple of weeks, not too sure.
I'm replying because I read an interview with Tarantino on aicn which stated that different cuts have been made for different countries.
I hope we don't wind up with a cut version....

June 1st I think. Definately in June though. There is a bit of a fuss being caused becuase apparently it is being split up into two movies everywhere except The US, Australia and the UK(Which I assume includes Ireland). This completely defeats the purpose of the thing. Doubt there will be any actual cuts from the censors over here though.

If it is split into two no way in hell am I paying for two seperate movies though even though I have never been more excited about a film before. I will either buy the R1 DVD or just to spite the fvckers get a copy of the film some other way;)

DirtyDog

Babybing wrote:

June 1st I think. Definately in June though. There is a bit of a fuss being caused becuase apparently it is being split up into two movies everywhere except The US, Australia and the UK(Which I assume includes Ireland). This completely defeats the purpose of the thing. Doubt there will be any actual cuts from the censors over here though.

If it is split into two no way in hell am I paying for two seperate movies though even though I have never been more excited about a film before. I will either buy the R1 DVD or just to spite the fvckers get a copy of the film some other way;)

Agreed, I wont be buying two over priced tickets in this country! Well I'm off to the states in the next few weeks, I'll make a point of it to go see it then!

Thanks for the info guys

qwertplaywert

thier was an article in the sunday world a few weeks ago,saying the irish censors office would NEVER pass it unless thier were major cuts
but,in the US,ive read,from Tarintino's own mouth[on web], that only about 30 seconds will be chopped

Basq

June 1st has been confirmed as the UK (and more than likely Irish) release date by Momentum Pictures.

Cannot wait for it.. been hearing mixed stuff about it.

'Planet Terror' (Rodriguez's segment) is meant to be fantastic. 'Death Proof' (Tarantino's segment) isn't supposed to be nearly as good... shame, as i'm a big Tarantino head!

johnny_ultimate

basquille wrote:

'Planet Terror' (Rodriguez's segment) is meant to be fantastic. 'Death Proof' (Tarantino's segment) isn't supposed to be nearly as good... shame, as i'm a big Tarantino head!

Ive heard mixed reviews. Some say Tarantino's is very enjoyable - Kurt Russell is meant to be absolutely terrific in it. Others Ive read say its not that good.
Death Proof to me looks like the more enjoyable (Planet Terror looks more like throwaway nonsense - in a good way mind) but will have to wait and see.
The trailers in the middle sound superb mind.

Basq

Yep.. heard amazing things about some of the trailers - especially one named "Werewolf Women of the SS"

But the problem with having two segments by two respected directors is no doubt everyone will probably see some good in the segment by the director they prefer (for me, Tarantino), and probably favour that one, regardless of if it is terrible. Which i know the film won't be - it may not live up the hype but it will be enjoyable nonetheless.

PS - i've heard Kurt Russell's starts off very well in 'Death Proof' but his performance takes a bit of a nose-dive two-thirds of the way through.

Dont be at yourself

Death Proof is being show in an extended form by itself at Cannes, and rumour is both movies will be extended and shown seperately in Europe as opposed to on the same reel.

Basq

NekkidBibleMan wrote:

Death Proof is being show in an extended form by itself at Cannes, and rumour is both movies will be extended and shown seperately in Europe as opposed to on the same reel.

I did indeed read something about that on the IMDB trivia page, but i thought that was a plan thought up in post-production, which was since abandoned.

Apart from US theaters, the two segments started as individual movies and had different release dates in cinemas all around the world.

Obviously not! :mad:

qwertplaywert

man, allready planning to sneak into this movie :d

Galvasean

Is it true that one of the 'mock' trailers is directed by Takashi Miike?

Running Bing

Galvasean wrote:

Is it true that one of the 'mock' trailers is directed by Takashi Miike?

No Eli Roth, Edgar Wright, Rob Zombie Direct the trailers and I think QT and RR might have trailers too but I am not sure about that

qwertplaywert wrote:

thier was an article in the sunday world a few weeks ago,saying the Irish censors office would NEVER pass it unless thier were major cuts
but,in the US,ive read,from Tarintino's own mouth[on web], that only about 30 seconds will be chopped

Sunday World sensationalism I imagine, I hear their is some pretty gory scenes but no sexual violence, the whole thing would be done pretty tongue in cheek too so I would'nt imagine there would be a problem, when you look at what has been passed in some recent film's. But I could be very wrong.:(




Worrying that Death proof is being shown as a single film at Cannes though:mad: Like I said though the word is the US,UK AND Aus are getting the proper film i.e. the double feature and the rest of Europe is having their money Stolen by greedy distributors. I imagine since the UK are getting the double feature(if they do) we will get it too.

Mossy Monk

Saw a trailer for this tonight and immediately started to wonder when this is being released in this country. What a leg .

Running Bing

Just seen that it has actually bombed the first weekend(well it came 4th and made 11 mil but that was disapointing). There's an interview in variety with weinstein and there is a lot of talk about how they will make money in Europe where it is being split and that the DVD realease will be split.


Now the details of it's release in the UK have been sketchy at best and I wonder if part of this was to see how it did as a double feature in the States. Basically I think it is even more likely now that it will be split:mad: I would imagine the initial plan was to release it as a double feature in the UK but they will be thinking twice about that after the US release.

Basq

Galvasean wrote:

Is it true that one of the 'mock' trailers is directed by Takashi Miike?

Am not sure.. the only 3 trailers i know of were directed by Edgar Wright, Rob Zombie and Eli Roth.

Babybing wrote:

Just seen that it has actually bombed the first weekend(well it came 4th and made 11 mil but that was disapointing). There's an interview in variety with weinstein and there is a lot of talk about how they will make money in Europe where it is being split and that the DVD realease will be split.

Not suprising.. an R-rated film on Easter Weekend - it was never gonna be number 1. Apprently, the Weinsteins are thinking of seperating 'Death Proof' and 'Planet Terror' and re-releasing them in the next few weeks. Money grubbing feckers to be honest! Read more about it here!

According to the article, the film cost $67 million and they spent $30 million on advertising so definitely a less than impressive opening weekend. But they'll make it back on a worldwide gross and DVD sales.

And i do blame the poor numbers on the choice of releasing it on Easter Weekend.

Running Bing

The only thing that fills me with some hope is that the trailer I saw in the cinema for it was for the double feature and not just a trailer for death proof.

Makaveli

From what I've been reading on other boards Tarrantino's part is a massive let down in comparison to Rodriguez's.

billstraighten

That sucks if they split it up
The trailers are hilarious IMO ..the eli roth one has a few squirmish bits in it
The rob zombie one is rediculously cheesey and has that token narrator(you know the one who always over exaggerates)

The film is great overall ..but i HAVE to say that tarantino did let me down in a major way it is quite boring in parts
If there are censor issues it is defo to do with planet terror

oh and btw ..there are frames deliberatly left out

Mossy Monk

Babybing wrote:

The only thing that fills me with some hope is that the trailer I saw in the cinema for it was for the double feature and not just a trailer for death proof.

That's what I saw too. It was for a double feature.

DirtyDog

Hearing more and more reports (latest was sky news showbiz) that the film will indeed be split into two - which totally sucks, I wont be paying to go see both films - here's hoping my US trip is sooner rather than later!

Running Bing

DirtyDog wrote:

Hearing more and more reports (latest was sky news showbiz) that the film will indeed be split into two - which totally sucks, I wont be paying to go see both films - here's hoping my US trip is sooner rather than later!

Well if it is split in two I will be giving my cousins in America a call;)

Rabies

It is definitly getting split in two for viewing outside of the US. Think the two movies together are a little over 3.5hrs. Long enough for one sitting, but a pain in the ass to pay full price twice

billstraighten

thats really ****ty that they are going to be split in two

i'd suggest just going to see planet terror ..its a lot better

crazy_dude6662

what will they do with the fake trailers?

Running Bing

Rabies wrote:

It is definitly getting split in two for viewing outside of the US. Think the two movies together are a little over 3.5hrs. Long enough for one sitting, but a pain in the ass to pay full price twice

Source?

davej

Babybing wrote:

Source?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6538753.stm?ls

"The two films will be released individually outside the US from 31 May."

davej

Running Bing

crazy_dude6662 wrote:

what will they do with the fake trailers?

If it is split in two here in Ireland(Thats the only question really, it is being split in Europe without a doubt but will it be split in the UK/Ireland?) I assume that planet terror will just be lopped off and we will get the fake trailers followed by death proof. Then a few months later Planet terror will be released.

Running Bing

davej wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/6538753.stm?ls

"The two films will be released individually outside the US from 31 May."

davej

Fvcking B*stards:mad:

billstraighten

ah wow ...what a downer for y'all

Mr E

Ideally if they were going to split it, they'd release both movies the same week, still show them back to back, and charge €9 (or whatever) for each, and give a half ticket discount for someone who wants to watch them back to back.

Still a rip off, but better than splitting them apart by a few weeks and charging full admission into each.

Running Bing

Im not giving up hope yet though. Nothing has been confirmed and most sources still have it as a double feature in the UK/Ireland


http://uk.movies.yahoo.com/g/Grindhouse/index-51578.html


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0462322/releaseinfo


http://www.iftn.ie/diary/films.cfm

Running Bing

TmB wrote:

Ideally if they were going to split it, they'd release both movies the same week, still show them back to back, and charge €9 (or whatever) for each, and give a half ticket discount for someone who wants to watch them back to back.

Still a rip off, but better than splitting them apart by a few weeks and charging full admission into each.

Doubt that is gonna happen. It seems there will be a big gap between death proof and planet terror in most of Europe.

The Weinstein's have said that they plan on re-releasing both films on their own later this year, indicating that this may happen in before the summer. The film has been a massive disappointment in America, like Snakes on a Plane it was hyped beyond belief and then played poorly opening weekend.

ObeyGiant

And now come to the accusations of plagiarism: http://www.therealgrindhouse.com

"It sucks, because now I'm that guy. I'm that guy stating that a big Hollywood player ripped off my idea. We all know how that looks. But, a. I made the movie – anyone can see it. and b. he's constantly referenced the day in 2003 when he got the idea to make a movie called Grindhouse. My bet is that it was the day he opened my Fed Ex. Maybe he didn't even watch the movie, but he had to have seen the poster, and maybe that was all it took."

humanji

Just read 2 news articles on imdb, one about the split and the other about the film being a flop:

Movie mogul Harvey Weinstein is planning to re-release Grindhouse as two separate films - after the double-bill flopped at the box office. The film, a double-feature directed by Quentin Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez made just $11.6 million in its opening weekend in the US. Producer Weinstein is disappointed - and thinks Tarantino's Death Proof, starring Kurt Russell, and Rodriguez' Planet Terror, with Rose McGowan, will perform better on their own. He tells PageSix.com, "I don't think people understood what we were doing. The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one. I don't understand the math, but I want to accommodate the audience."

and

Some moviegoers who bought tickets to see the Robert Rodriguez/Quentin Tarantino "double bill" Grindhouse were apparently unaware that the feature comprised two separate movies -- and walked out after the first one, Rodriguez's Planet Terror, ended, published reports said today (Tuesday). "I don't think people understood what we were doing," Weinstein told today's New York Post. "The audience didn't get the idea that it is two movies for the price of one." The walk-outs could offer another partial explanation for the film's disappointing performance at the box-office. Most critics agreed that the second movie, Tarantino's Death Proof, was the superior of the two. Daily Variety also reported that The Weinstein Co. is overhauling its ad campaign but will be facing stiff competition next weekend when seven -- count 'em, seven -- new films open. The Post added that the company is also considering re-releasing the two movies as separate offerings in longer versions, as it had already decided to do overseas and on DVD.

I'm just curious as to how people went to it not knowing it was two movies!

Petey2006

Some moviegoers who bought tickets to see the Robert Rodriguez/Quentin Tarantino "double bill" Grindhouse were apparently unaware that the feature comprised two separate movies -- and walked out after the first one, Rodriguez's Planet Terror, ended, published reports said today

People are idiots.

Basq

Some moviegoers who bought tickets to see the Robert Rodriguez/Quentin Tarantino "double bill" Grindhouse were apparently unaware that the feature comprised two separate movies -- and walked out after the first one, Rodriguez's Planet Terror, ended, published reports said today

I don't think that's too far fetched to be honest. People might have reckoned that half of of 'Planet Terror' was directed by Rodriguez with the other half being Tarantino's direction.

And you need to remember, there is apparently a full roll of credits between the movies.

I could see it happening in my local cinema definitely.

humanji wrote:

I'm just curious as to how people went to it not knowing it was two movies!

Casual cinema-goers who may just go weekly with no real knowledge (besides advertising) of what the film comprises. It's daft but there are plenty of people in the States, and here, just like that.

Running Bing

Surely it would make sense to put some sort of disclaimer at the start of the movie covering the facts it is a double feature and scratches missing reels are intentional?

It is very easy to call people idiots but if you decided to go to the pictures and just seen grindhouse directed by RR or QT and you thought I will give that a go not knowing anything about it(which a lot of people do, not everyone is a big fan of QT,RR or Exploitation cinema) once the credit's rolled on the 90 minute Planet terror why would'nt you leave?


Same thing with the scratches and missing reels. People are complaining to cinema's in the states about it. When I think back to when I seen Kill Bill I knew absolutely nothing about it(and I was a fan of RD, PF and JB), a friend just suggested we go and see it. Now if I walked into the theatre and that had of been scratched to **** with missing reels I would not have known that was intentional.



What I am saying is many people, the majority, go to the pictures without reading features in empire or reviews or searching the web for info. Most people who see the trailers have no idea what this movie is about. My friends dont know what a Grindhouse is and the concept of a double feature is totally alien to them. You cant just expect people to know what is going on!

Raekwon

As far as I can gather, the movie will be released in non-English speaking countries as two separate films while in the U.S. and a few other English-speaking territories people will get to see it as one singular experience. So I'm guessing that the UK, Ireland & Australia will get the uncut version.

Of course the Weinsteins could just split it regardless, especially considering that a ticket to see a movie in the likes of the Odeon in Leicester Square, London will set punters back a whopping £17 (€25).

Inglorious bastards :mad:

Running Bing

Raekwon wrote:

As far as I can gather, the movie will be released in non-English speaking countries as two separate films while in the U.S. and a few other English-speaking territories people will get to see it as one singular experience. So I'm guessing that the UK, Ireland & Australia will get the uncut version.

Of course the Weinsteins could just split it regardless, especially considering that a ticket to see a movie in the likes of the Odeon in Leicester Square, London will set punters back a whopping £17 (€25).

Inglorious bastards :mad:

That was always the plan, no question but the fact that it has done so poorly will it tempt Weinstein to split it up everywhere? Word is it's gonna get split in the states before long so there is nothing to say it wont be split on initial release over here.

I am quietly confident they wont split it though.

Running Bing

Anyone read the utterly ridiculous article in the sunday times culture magazine about grindhouse and other modern horror films?