Two MTT hands...what's your move

Iago

Current Number of Players: 9
HERO : 2,960.00
sjukov : 2,470.00
Villain 2 : 2,480.00
Auli : 2,400.00
Dryplen : 2,500.00
Greatscott: 2,710.00
Villain 1 : 2,000.00
Adskiy_Boss : 2,500.00
deuns : 2,480.00
deuns posts small blind (10)
Adskiy_Boss posts big blind (20)
HERO is dealt down [Jh Jd]
Villain 1 calls (20)
Greatscott raises to (90)
Dryplen folds
Auli folds
Villain 2 calls (90)
sjukov folds
HERO calls (90)
deuns calls (90)
Adskiy_Boss folds
Villain 1 calls (90)
flop: [9c 8h 5c]
deuns checks
Villain 1 checks
Greatscott checks
Villain 2 checks
HERO bets (320)
deuns folds
Villain 1 calls (320)
Greatscott folds
Villain 2 raises to (2390) and is all-in
HERO??



Hand 2

Current Number of Players: 8
HERO: 2,505.00
sjukov : 2,405.00
thecod : 4,060.00
Auli : 1,730.00
VILLAIN : 3,420.00
Greatscott : 5,550.00
mikequell : 2,495.00
Adskiy_Boss : 2,775.00
Auli posts small blind (15)
thecod posts big blind (30)
HERO is dealt down [Jh Ah]
sjukov folds
HERO calls (30)
Adskiy_Boss folds
mikequell folds
Greatscott folds
Villain calls (30)
Auli calls (30)
thecod checks
flop: [7d 8c Jc]
Auli checks
thecod checks
HERO bets (120)
Villain calls (120)
Auli calls (120)
thecod calls (120)
turn: [As]
Auli checks
thecod checks
HERO bets (420)
Villain raises to (1080)
Auli folds
thecod folds
HERO??

robinlacey

how much were the buyins?

in the first hand,i'd fold in a $200 buyin,instacall in a $10

i think the second hand is a call regardless

shoutman

First hand I would fold, but I probably would of reraised preflop, I know some people dont like to reraise here with only jj but I think it makes defining other peoples hands a lot easier.

Second hand it is insta call for me. UL to come up against a set or a straight but a lot of the time people will have lower two pair imo.

Iago

robinlacey wrote:

how much were the buyins?

in the first hand,i'd fold in a $200 buyin,instacall in a $10

i think the second hand is a call regardless

$100 buyin

Lissavalley

Hand 1 I prefer a reraise pf. If original raiser repops it its an easy fold. As played I fold. your up against a set here an awful lot.


Hand 2 I cant fold.

Iago

In hand 2, if I call Villains bet I've 1,400 left behind with approx 2.5 in the pot, Villain has about 3K behind.

With that in mind do those advocating a call, mean to call to and evaluate on the river or push at this point?

kebabfest

Playing live you generally have a better indicator of what a player is up to.
In Hand 1 If I think the other person is on a flush or straight draw I am calling no matter what the buy in. If the player seems v solid then I am probably folding.

In Hand 2 I am going Allin. If he has the straight or trips I think he is putting a raise in on the flop. He is more likekly reraising you with A7 or A8.

Iago

shoutman wrote:

First hand I would fold, but I probably would of reraised preflop, I know some people dont like to reraise here with only jj but I think it makes defining other peoples hands a lot easier.

Lissavalley wrote:

Hand 1 I prefer a reraise pf. If original raiser repops it its an easy fold.

Generally, I prefer a reraise pf with JJ too, but rarely in these circumstances.

The blinds are a tiny % of my stack, I've had a raise and caller in front of me with two players to act. I can see a flop cheaply and then either trap someone into commiting a lot of their stack, or get away if I need to.

If I reraise here, then I have to make it around 400-500. That's coming towards 17% of my stack, to win 210 if it's folded or
to have to throw it away if it's repopped, or
have to fold on a wide range of flops that aren't kind to JJ.

so in this instance I think the call preflop and evaluate again on the flop is the better option generally speaking.