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[US]24, Day6, Hour 16, (9pm - 10pm) [Spoilers]

  • 03-04-2007 11:50am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,396 ✭✭✭✭


    ****ing hell.

    Didn't see that ending coming [well, aside from the 2 mins prior to it]

    Good to see Daniels get what he deserved. Asshole.

    Gredenko dead I'm assuming. Consumed by teh ocean :)

    Fayid about to be interrogated by Jack. Great thinking by Gredenko tho in the bar, reminds me of a similar scene in Crank! *chuckle*

    Still dunno what the deal is with Doyle...better be worth all the screen time tho.

    Good enough ep I suppose.

    [US]24, Day6, Hour 16, (9pm - 10pm) [Spoilers] 19 votes

    5*****
    0%
    4****
    10%
    Pepe LeFritsBerns 2 votes
    3***
    63%
    Mossy MonkkaimeraLFCFanZaphyom 1Sparkywhosedaddy?KojakMenciusHaven't a Cluesilvineunreggd 12 votes
    2**
    5%
    idlesupernova 1 vote
    1*
    21%
    Lex_DiamondstvnutzArathornKel Varnsen 4 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Mencius


    3***
    Yeah the end was quiet a surprise.

    Can't see Palmer being President till the end though, just wondering who will take over because I doubt Daniels will now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,485 ✭✭✭Berns


    4****
    :eek: wtf @ the ending :confused:
    Maybe palmer was drugged in that last adrenaline shot ?? It doesn't seem like he can keep lookin ok much longer, signs startin to show he's weak. Maybe he'll faint at the table there :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭2Scoops


    I can't believe Doyle covered up Milo's mistake. Losing respect for the guy now:( I still think Milo is up to no good.

    Best character in this episode was Tom Lennox - what a legend!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭unreggd


    3***
    I hafta say, the shows gettin a lot more predictable, although it is in its 6th season, and i am psychic


    it was well random that Wayne laucnhed the attack at the end. I thought he might have been dilerious from the OD of adrenaline

    I knew that Gredenko would chop his arm off.

    So i guess this means the guy that questioned Fayed meetin gredenko is the new head of the terrorist front


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭random_banter


    The end was a huge surprise, im also thinking it has something to do with his OD of adrenaline? Like he's high or something, is experiencing clouded judgement?

    Gredenko cutting his arm off = gruesome and predictable, but effective!

    Lennox was great but did anyone else get an odd feeling during his last scene with Karen, like he was once again up to something a bit sinister? Could be my imagination.

    Do you guys think the strike will hit the targets or do you reckon therell be some last minute change of mind/jack saves the day somehow/ i dont know? Can those things be cancelled after launch? It would certainly be a huge change of plot if they end up bombing this mystery country in the middle east.

    Also, we didnt actually see much of Jack, I miss him! Hah.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    3***
    Four stars from me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭2Scoops


    Putting on my physiology hat...
    adrenaline should have no obvious psychological effects on the President - certainly not enough to completely reverse his original decision. His mind is not clouded. I think there is a much simpler explanation, as the preview for next week suggests:
    He threatens the ambassador from "Fayed's country" - meaning he can somehow abort the strike, so I imagine it's just an elaborate bluff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,835 ✭✭✭unreggd


    3***
    Maybe he launched a nuclear Ham as a warnin shot


    that'll show em!


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 3,816 Mod ✭✭✭✭LFCFan


    3***
    Maybe he lauched a new Comic book taking the piss out of Mohammad. This would piss Fayad's country off more then a nuclear strike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭Arathorn


    1*
    Boring episode no action almost no jack, and the end was unbelieveable. I'd like to see more of daniels the guy u love to hate! Also I think either Milo or Nadia is a mole, there both using the same ctu access i.d which is prob to keep us guessing. Im 80% for nadia bein the mole, getting used to the script writers after 6 seasons. Still best show on T.V even on a poor week


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭steviec


    The bit with the president made no sense. He's risking killing himself so he can replace the vice president and do exactly the same things... Hmmmm. It created nice drama and I certainly didn't see it coming(I was expecting Lennox' shock phonecall at the end telling him the president had collapsed and died) but what happened just wasn't remotely believable.

    Aside from that, I loved what Gredenko did to Fayed at the bar, I thought that was brilliant thinking. I just don't know why he chopped off his own arm to run away with Fayed and then screw him over anyway, when he could have just screwed Fayed over from the start and taken his immunity deal...

    Ummm I can't actually think of anything else that happened in the episode. A bit slow by 24's standards, still decent I suppose but not the strongest of weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭2Scoops


    steviec wrote:
    Aside from that, I loved what Gredenko did to Fayed at the bar, I thought that was brilliant thinking. I just don't know why he chopped off his own arm to run away with Fayed and then screw him over anyway, when he could have just screwed Fayed over from the start and taken his immunity deal...
    I think Gredenko was smart enough to know his 'immunity' was worthless and that Jack or someone else would kill him. As Jack said: he gave in too easily. Anyway, his deal was as good as Logan's at best - permanent house arrest and not being sent to Russia isn't really preferable to being free, but was the most he could realistically bargain for in the situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭steviec


    2Scoops wrote:
    I think Gredenko was smart enough to know his 'immunity' was worthless and that Jack or someone else would kill him. As Jack said: he gave in too easily. Anyway, his deal was as good as Logan's at best - permanent house arrest and not being sent to Russia isn't really preferable to being free, but was the most he could realistically bargain for in the situation.

    I'd take house arrest over losing an arm but personal preference I suppose :)

    Another thought that's occurred to me - the Vice President's advisor seemed to be gradually becoming more and more uneasy with him becoming a cartoonish super-villain over the previous few episodes, and then goes and does a complete U-turn offering to lie for him. Could she have colluded with Tom Lennox to actually coax him into something he could be blackmailed for? If so that could come back to haunt them. I have to say, Tom Lennox has been a fantastic character, he's probably only been second to Jack this season. He's kept the Whitehouse interesting while Wayne Palmer was boring as hell in the early episodes and the Vice President has been far too one dimensional in more recent ones, but Lennox seems like a much more interesting, well rounded character to have around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 937 ✭✭✭whosedaddy?


    3***
    Now the Vp has all reason to call on the 25th amendment... :-) Waynes judgement is clouded.

    Tom is just class. I think he should join CTU...

    Doyle covers Milo's mistake, cause he fancies him :-)

    Wait for the Russian Sub to surface and take Gredenko on board.

    good episode, but not 5 stars...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Haven't a Clue


    3***
    Good episode I thought. A good bit more Jack than the last few although there was still a good bit of political mumbo jumbo.

    Don't like the idea of both terrorists being gotten rid of, more or less, without the new threat given any real air-time. I reckon we might see an old face from the past as the new threat. Maybe someone like Mandy.

    As for the end, it was clear to me what the president was trying to do. He was within a whisker of losing his presidency, so what he's trying to do now is to try and win over Daniels' supporters by launching the missile thingy. Good ending though.

    Gave it a 4, there's still a lot of room for improvement though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,231 ✭✭✭✭Sparky


    3***
    Woah


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,317 ✭✭✭lafors


    2Scoops wrote:
    Putting on my physiology hat...
    adrenaline should have no obvious psychological effects on the President - certainly not enough to completely reverse his original decision. His mind is not clouded. I think there is a much simpler explanation, as the preview for next week suggests...


    Oh yes oh yes.
    You sir are a smart cookie.
    I would have to give you a 98% chance of being right.
    The other 2% is for palmer collapsing before it hits and they don't activate the head.

    AFAIK a nuclear head is not activated on a missile until its within its tarkets range....otherwise a mishap on firing could be dangerous :) to say the least.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,114 ✭✭✭lukin


    Lennox was great but did anyone else get an odd feeling during his last scene with Karen, like he was once again up to something a bit sinister? Could be my imagination.

    I got the same feeling as well. I bet there's going to be some massive twist in the end to do with him, I don't know what though.
    Don't see much point in capturing Fayed, he doesn't have the nukes on him, the guy he left them with has and Fayed won't break under interrogation.
    Am really glad that Fayed didn't make some miraculous escape a la Marwan in season 4, that would really have pissed me off.
    I found the whole power struggle between the VP and Wayne a bit boring 'cause it was done before in season 2 with David Palmer. Also the thing with someone in CTU being wrongly accused of being a mole was also in a previous season, maybe even more than once.
    Seems a bit silly at the end that Wayne would change mind like that;he's a terrible President, he doesn't seem to know what he wants, very indecisive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,801 ✭✭✭✭Kojak


    3***
    A reasonably good episode, but the ending was a bit strange. Palmer risks permanent brain damage in order to stop Daniels's attack on Fayed's country, then does the exact thing himself. I mean, what was the point. :confused:

    Very little Jack in this episode - which was strange considering that he was interrogating Gredenko and caught Fayed.

    Daniels and Tom Lennox are going to come to blows soon enough, IMO. With Lennox trying to blackmail Daniels, I cannot see the Vice President letting this stand...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 270 ✭✭idlesupernova


    2**
    I did not see the ending coming for a second, when Lennox's phone went I presumed the Pres was back in a coma. In season 1 was one of Mylo's family hurt or killled, or am I thinking of someone else? Could be a reason for Mylo being a mole, deciding to take revenge somehow, far fetched but possible?

    Im pissed off with no mention of Charles Logan's condition, Fayed's replacment doesnt fit a 24 'Master Villian' to me, so someone else is around no doubt.

    Will Daddy Bauer pop up with Kim?

    I read last year that Kiefer Sutherland suffered an injury filming another movie,ribs or back, not to sure, could be a reason for his lack of screen time at the moment?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭sofireland


    Given the hostility between doyle and milo i think those two are putting on a show, and could be up to no good together. Doyle covering for Milo, wouldn't have seemed plausible when he was first introduced.

    And the ending, didn't see that coming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,589 ✭✭✭✭Necronomicon


    Good episode, although throughout I couldn't help thinking again that the political side of things was pretty identical to the end of Season 2, the whole 25th Ammendment thing. Although there is one difference; season 2 didn't have Tom Lennox, fantastic character. (Never thought I'd be saying that after wanting to strangle him in the first couple of hours!)

    But the whole CTU/Jack side of things was top notch. Didn't think for a second they'd catch Fayed this early.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭Kel Varnsen


    1*
    When did Jack first appear in this episode, halfway through? Either Kiefer's completely knackered(how could he not be, I guess) or they're setting up Doyle to replace him at some point. That crap about Milo's computer was so unbelievably contrived, why not tell Nadia your intentions to begin with rather than making yourself look like a dick? And that line about trying to find meaning in his life may have been the worst in TV history. At this point, Jack is the only reason I still watch. Any chance the writers had of killing Jack and continuing the show left when they killed Tony.

    That being said, I'd still watch 24 over anything else on TV, but this season has pretty much been a write-off for me, hopefully we resume service next season, and possibly get to see some REAL Bauer badassery this season once the nukes have been wrapped up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,132 ✭✭✭silvine


    3***
    This week's was a decent episode and definately up on last week's.

    The scenes with Gradenko and Fayid were great. The fancy isotope tracking device, the chopping off of Gradenko's arm and the bar room betrayal were all classic 24. Good villains drive the show as much as Jack does.

    Tom Lennox is an interesting character. He is clearly not a villain but some of the stuff he does is a little creepy. His bugging of the room and casual threatening of the vice president was nicely done.

    Doyle has gotten more interesting in three episodes than Curtis was in three years.

    However, I don't think things bodes well for the rest of the season.

    The writers appear to be wrapping up the current villains role in the day.

    Gredenko looks dead and Fayid has been captured. If they bring in a new threat it will look like the writers ran out of steam (season 4 anybody?). Or maybe they'll do the whole Marwan escape act again.

    The decision by the President to bomb what'sitcalledistan SEEMED like a twist too far.

    And Jack seems to be having an easy enough day so far.

    Plus what the hell happened to Logan??

    Maybe they raised the bar too high last season.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 984 ✭✭✭NextSteps


    silvine wrote:

    And Jack seems to be having an easy enough day so far.
    If I'd had a day like that I'd be handing in my notice, or at least asking for a raise...


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