Luas bridge for Docklands unveiled

Slice

See link:

http://www.irish-architecture.com/news/2007/000100.html

Zebra3

I can't see where the cycle lanes are.

Transport21 Fan

It's simply stunning.

So when are the NIMBYs going to start delaying it indefinitely...:rolleyes: I can hear the hear the bi-polar meglomanic alcoholics and taxi drivers calling Joe Duffy already.

Chris_533976

Oh now thats a nice bridge. Original, innovative..... Im so used to saying "so why cant that be built here?" that Im amazed its supposed to go in Dublin.

Slippin Jimmy

That looks amazing.

daymobrew

The bridge is being discussed on Archiseek.com, with multiple comments about the lack of cycle facilities. I've emailed the DDDA to raise the issue.

Is the bridge near Guild Street?

loyatemu

daymobrew wrote:

The bridge is being discussed on Archiseek.com, with multiple comments about the lack of cycle facilities. I've emailed the DDDA to raise the issue.

Is the bridge near Guild Street?

thats exactly where it is.

Borzoi

Zebra3 wrote:

I can't see where the cycle lanes are.

From the article linked wrote:

It broadens and dips down in the middle with curved walkways and cycle paths on either side to take pedestrians and cyclists close to the water.

Reading. Not just for Christmas

BendiBus

Lit up it actually looks like a living thing (in the artists impression anyway!)

Zebra3

Borzoi wrote:

Reading. Not just for Christmas

I'm well capable of reading smart arse.

But to me there doesn't look like enough space between the lanes for traffic and the side of the bridge for both pedestrians and cyclists.

daymobrew

Borzoi wrote:

Reading. Not just for Christmas

Pedestrians and cyclists don't mix safely. I find that pedestrians aren't great at walking in straight lines (and often cyclists don't adjust their cycling appropriately). Most cyclists will have seen situations where peds choose the bike path over the ped path on side-by-side bike/ped footpaths (or just use the bike path like in the Phoenix Park :mad: ).
In these shared routes, the cyclist has to drop their speed dramatically and then negotiate their way back into road traffic at the end of that route. I'd take on-road lanes any day.

BendiBus

daymobrew wrote:

Most cyclists will have seen situations where peds choose the bike path over the ped path on side-by-side bike/ped footpaths

Like on North Wall Quay and opposite on Sir John Rogersons, where bikes and pedestrians mix freely on both footpath and cyclepath :rolleyes: Not to mention the "pedestrian only" Sean O'Casey bridge! It almost makes offering separate options pointless as neither pedestrian or cyclist seem to take any heed.

europerson

A really landmark-looking piece. Congratulations to those who chose it.

patrickc

yeh it's stunning, hopefully now no delays and it'll be up and running as per schedule..

Mushy

Saw this in the paper on Sunday, think it looks amazing. Although I love the image of the sppedboats in there because, personally now, I've never seen any on the Liffey

Seth Brundle

Zebra3 wrote:

I can't see where the cycle lanes are.

I can't see where the luas tracks are.

Zoney

kbannon wrote:

I can't see where the luas tracks are.

The picture hurt my eyes - looks like thin lines are the tracks, there appear to be two at each tram, then like some hideous optical illusion you realise there are three lines total and both trams are using the middle one and about to crash!

Seth Brundle

Maybe its a hover-tram

Borzoi

kbannon wrote:

Maybe its a hover-tram

Now THAT would be worth €600M

spacetweek

Zoney wrote:

The picture hurt my eyes - looks like thin lines are the tracks, there appear to be two at each tram, then like some hideous optical illusion you realise there are three lines total and both trams are using the middle one and about to crash!

I'm seeing that optical illusion too! Gah, it's like a hideous Escher picture.

Capt'n Midnight

nah, it's just the edge of the lanes, the track is a little narrower than the trams.

and still can't see the bike lanes

where did they find that old volkswagen transporter , and the blue car about to go onto the bridge looks like it's spent the last 50 years driving around Havana

Victor

Nice style, but there are a bunch of problems.

* Nice little niche for anti-social behavior under the bridge.
* Its not the bridge approved in the inquiry.
* Cycling. It is probably best that cyclists mix with vehicular traffic as cyclists can go straight on or turn left, vehicular traffic can only turn left.
* The width and air draught of the dock is affected.

Mushy wrote:

Saw this in the paper on Sunday, think it looks amazing. Although I love the image of the sppedboats in there because, personally now, I've never seen any on the Liffey

Its on the Royal Canal (or the Grand Canal as the RPA call it :rolleyes:), not the Liffey.

John McLaughlin, Director of Architecture, Docklands Authority wrote:

“The visual impact of the bridge is significant as it is in a conspicuous location visible from quite a distance along the canal in either direction.

Well all of 200m.

It will clearly impact on the Royal Canal Linear Park by dominating the skyline of the section running from North Wall to Sherriff Street.

I think the 11-storey apartment blocks will do that.

Capt'n Midnight

The resulting structure is almost as wide as it is long to accommodate the Luas tram lines and traffic lanes. It broadens and dips down in the middle with curved walkways and cycle paths on either side to take pedestrians and cyclists close to the water.

so it does have cycle lanes then, but shouldn't they be flat ?

Metrobest

Victor wrote:

I think the 11-storey apartment blocks will do that.

11 storey apartment blocks the likes of which are being built in that area dominate nothing. The design of apartments in Dublin is exceptionally ordinary. Most of what is being built now are the eyesores of tomorrow.

This bridge if built, however, would be something special. An iconic structure that will really enhance the area. Eyes will be drawn to the beautiful bridge instead of the poor architecture surrounding it.