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P2p prosecutions in Ireland

  • 03-04-2007 9:32am
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    Hi folks, with the news of DRM-free music and BitTorrent going legal, Im determinded to straight myself on the whole P2p thing. Im wondering though what the situation is regarding file-sharing in Ireland. Has anyone been fined for file-sharing in this country? What kind of snooping takes place on BitTorrent(which is my only client) and could I get hammered for the sins of the past?

    Thanks in advance!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 70 ✭✭duleekboy


    just read a post on this topic a while back on some other forum and one reply hit the nail on the head the jist of this is below

    "Put simply, if there is illegally downloaded material on your pc (or you are allowing your pc to be used as a node) you must account for it.


    In reality IRMA have targetted people whom they say are offering illegal content through your IP. There is a Big difference.

    On the security side, it is pretty easy to crack any WEP security protected wifi LAN inside 30 seconds with a widely available free app with a click of a button and they can view your LAN.

    Taking this to the next level, if IRMA take you to court and you say you didnt have any illegal content on your pc, you bring your illegal content free laptop to court for inspection, (whether it ever had it on it before is a different matter) what can IRMA say?

    Take the stance that its up to you to prove it wasnt you, raise the stakes and discuss that darkest of topics, child porn. If someone was of the mind to take down a file with said content from a monitored source, would they take it down on their network or log on to their neighbours if they could get on it? Now it gets a bit more serious then a few quid, how do you prove who took it down without a PC?


    I dont think IRMA wouldnt have a leg to stand on if it went to court just on the basis of an IP logged upload."


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,551 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    duleekboy wrote:
    On the security side, it is pretty easy to crack any WEP security protected wifi LAN inside 30 seconds with a widely available free app with a click of a button and they can view my LAN.


    While this is somewhat true, cracking a WEP key is made easier if the WLAN has more traffic.
    If a WLAN has little or no traffic then it'll take ages to track.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭runswithascript


    duleekboy wrote:
    On the security side, it is pretty easy to crack any WEP security protected wifi LAN inside 30 seconds with a widely available free app with a click of a button and they can view your LAN.

    Wouldn't IRMA, or whoever investigates at their behest, probably the guards, then be breaking the law themselves?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,010 ✭✭✭✭Cuddlesworth


    dusf wrote:
    Wouldn't IRMA, or whoever investigates at their behest, probably the guards, then be breaking the law themselves?

    :(

    My neighbor cracks my wireless network and downloads Music. The IRMA take me to court and try to send me to jail or charge/force a settlement on me on the basis that my IP was the one that was used.

    I fight it and point out that without any better evidence that it was me, the whole things a farce. Any moron with half a brain who lives in my area, and can follow simple instructions could have done it. I walk free.

    Other people simply just pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭runswithascript


    krazy_8s wrote:
    Other people simply just pay.

    Interesting. Is it really that insecure? I don't have the privilege of a wireless router myself. Even considering all the benefits of Wi-Fi if it's insecure I'd opt for wired methinks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,264 ✭✭✭✭Hobbes


    If someone is breaking into your network to determine if you have illegal stuff it wouldn't hold up in court.

    Certainly in the US the RIAA tried to change the laws to allow this. Failed though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    dusf wrote:
    Interesting. Is it really that insecure? I don't have the privilege of a wireless router myself. Even considering all the benefits of Wi-Fi if it's insecure I'd opt for wired methinks.
    Its extremely easy to secure Wi-Fi. The problem is simply the usual one of most people not actually knowing enough about the technologies they are using, combined with some companies not setting it up to be secure by default.

    Its astounding the number of completely unsecure networks. I have detected 12 different networks around my house, 8 of them having either no security at all, or pathetically weak security.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,998 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Blowfish wrote:
    Its extremely easy to secure Wi-Fi. The problem is simply the usual one of most people not actually knowing enough about the technologies they are using, combined with some companies not setting it up to be secure by default.

    Its astounding the number of completely unsecure networks. I have detected 12 different networks around my house, 8 of them having either no security at all, or pathetically weak security.

    Out of curiousity what would you suggest? Because I got a new wireless router the other day from Eircom, completely forgot about securing it or whatever...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    dulpit wrote:
    Out of curiousity what would you suggest? Because I got a new wireless router the other day from Eircom, completely forgot about securing it or whatever...
    I don't want to take this completely off topic, so I'll just give you the link to the faq in the wireless forum. Post there if you've any questions not covered.


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