Three Standard Tourney Hands

LuckyLloyd

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Ste05

Hand 1: I call pretty quickly, who knows what he has, but he certainly doesn't have us beat enough. I would seriously doubt he has a set, AA or KK with the insta-push. My quess is he has a flush or str8 draw.

Hand 2: Nope, I fold, it looks like he has a 9 and was hoping the A was his pay-out card.

Hand 3: I call and hope he has overs, you were pot committed to call any shove after you raised Pre-Flop IMO. (I presume you raised to 2700 again and it's only another 8600 to call??)

Hectorjelly

Hand 1 Call. The board is too drawy to fold unless he is really really tight

Hand 2 I dont like your plan at all, you actually have a piece of the flop, and the stacks sizes are ridiculous to try and take someone away from a hand. You need to decide on the flop if your hand is good or not. On the turn, on the downside there are some cards on the river that counterfeit your hand. He will nearly always have a number of outs when you are ahead and you will usually have 2 when behind. That said his hand stinks of a bluff. I think I might call but I wouldnt be happy, and I have no problem with a fold.

Hand 3 Easy call

Solksjaer

Only have time to read 1 hand. 1st hand. I'd call here. just as you are aware of your table image, he may be aware of his and trying to take advantage of it. (a thought) Also, this flop suits 10s Js etc so he may just think he's ahead. I'd call and UL if he has a set, a push would be a bad bet though as he may scare you away, with a set he should raise not push so I think not a set. You have QQ so only two pockets beat you. I'd definitely put him on an overpair to the board. If he'd KK or AA he would have reraised you. So I'd call and hope he has a draw or 10s Js.

phantom_lord

1. Call

2. Fold

3. Call


I'll be back later to fill the rest in!

robinlacey

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Hand 3: My table – image should be a little shattered now as I got as low as 10 BBs and pushed with 87 when folded to me. The BB called with 99 and I caught two nines on the flop to double through. .

you should just use whatever crazy derren brown skills allowed you to win this pot to claim all the others

a-k-47

robinlacey wrote:

you should just use whatever crazy derren brown skills allowed you to win this pot to claim all the others

lol:D

mewso

phantom_lord wrote:

1. Call

2. Fold

3. Call


I'll be back later to fill the rest in!

Cute.

phantom_lord

I had to go to a lecture!


1. I really doubt he has a high pair/set, I think he has a draw a lot here, so ship it.

2. Why are you calling to take it away from him, you're either ahead or he has a hand that he's not folding? I'd fold now as default. but might call depending on reads/history. it depends.

3. Ship it. I don't have to explain why do i?

Bandana boy

Hand 1
i think you should call as it looks like a draw but when it comes to QQ you would be best do the opposite to what I think

Hand 2 I think this is a fold
You have muck on an unfavourable board I think over half his range destroys you here and the balance has about 18 outs

Hand 3
initially i am thinking ship it but with circa 10K-11k depending on what you raised with left I think you can find a fold here and still have some play left in this tourney
This guys range has to be ahead of you here even considering the 87 stunt

cooker3

phantom_lord wrote:

I had to go to a lecture!

First time for everything hey

phantom_lord

exams are approaching!

LuckyLloyd

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ditpoker

1. call. i think DeV put it in a post the other day about Irish Open strategy, where in a deep stack/long blind structure tourney you can lay this sort of hand down and find better/safer positions to get the chips in. but in a regular club tourney you have to get the chips in with QQ on an 8 high board. getthem in and take it to the bad beat sticky if it doesnt work out.

2. as HJ says, the decision has to be on the flop. i think if you have 89 and the flop is TT8 your play of call to take it down on turn works as there are 6 under cards to your pair of 8's, but with a 996 board and you holding the 6, the is only 4 under cards that can hit the board that can make you feel safe in your play. on the turn foldy foldy fold for me. on the flop, 50/50...

3. if the guy your talking about is who im thinking of find the fold. short brown curly hair, glasses, doesnt say much? if so fold. i know there is the standard "priced in" argument but at best your racing here. either open push, or fold to HIS raise, someone elses raise ya get them in...

other: throughout your post you talk about your image, and how it should be fairly tight. you are an SE regular and one of the better players in there. There are NO winning SE players who i'd consider incapable of raising with air. You could fold fold fold for the first four levels and SE regulars still will not consider you a tight player. your average dublin cardroom player will remember a time three months ago when you went broke with 47off before they notice you havent played a hand in three levels on this particular day. The likes of yourself, tony, wes, and others do not have a tight image no matter how hard you try, you;re raising range is/will be wide, but your going broke range is tighter. Ya follow? don't rely too much on image in these situations, unless against players who you think are good enough to appreciate it.

ianmc38

Hand 1: never fold. his range can be any draw, any overpair and even a hand as weak as 78s/A8 etc. So call for me.

Hand 2: Not much to add here. If he'd donk the flop when holding a 9, fair enough, but his hand seems to be more like a bluff. I'd probably shove the flop.

Hand 3: You shouldnt fold.

RasTa

Just on hand 3 I feel it should be an easy call. You already mentioned the table is 6 handed which would influce my decision aswell as being pretty much pot commited.

ditpoker

hand 3. we're up against a tight player who so far has only shown hands that we are at best racing against, probably much worse. "He has open - pushed a couple of times the last few orbits showing 1010 and AQ. He has not come over the top of any raises thus far." no he has come over the top of a raise for all his stack. if he's open pushing with hands like TT, AQ, why do we think he's reraising with a hand that doesnt beat 99?!? if we fold we're left with 10,800 (13500 stack - 2700 bet) at the 400/800 level, we can definately fold and still be very comfortable. i'd struggle to find a call here.