Set of queens, and the tables all-in

Mellor

Ipoker 10 handed STT
Players are passive, calling down with poor hands and seeing flops with weak holdings. I feel, even though short stacked, I can take this down.

6 Players left, stack sizes
Dealer: 4850
SB: 1410 (HERO)
BB: 1890
UTG: 3930
MP: 950
CO: 1970

Dealt to hero, QdQc

Hero post sb, 30
BB posts bb, 60
UTG calls 60
MP folds
CO calls 60
Dealer folds
Hero raises to 300
BB calls 300
UTG calls 300
CO calls 300

*Flop*
Ac Qh Js

Hero checks
BB bets 1590, all-in
UTG raises all-in, (3630 total)
CO calls, all-in (1670)
Hero ???

Chucky the tree

have to call.

White Knight

Unfortunately K10 is a very likely holding for these players (at any level). If this is the case it is likely the other players are holding a lot of your outs (possibly needing board to pair) considering the board cards and the action.

Regardless of this I still do not think I could fold!

cardshark202

If you folded or spent more than 5 seconds thinking about folding, give up poker.

RasTa

cardshark202 wrote:

If you folded or spent more than 5 seconds thinking about folding, give up poker.

Harsh but true...

DapperGent

What are you getting like 3000000-1?

phantom_lord

insta-call

LuckyLloyd

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Lissavalley

Call. Someone has k10 but I cant lay a set down under these circumstances given the odds you are getting

Mellor

My train of thought at the time was. K10 is the only hand I can see beating me. If one of these two players has these cards (and I am sure they do), the other probably have some of my outs. But im getting 4/1 on the call. Only need to win 20% of the time. and with all the limping pf, im sure not too many of my outs are dead.
its a clear call here,

but could i ever lay this down because after this hand the table is likely to be lose a player, with two short stacks remaining. I generally play for the win,

Lay it down and play the buble, fairly sure I could cash
or gambol when behind to be in a position to win.
blinds are still very small

shoutman

Insta call.... ten handed stt, you win and you'd have to do your best not to win the sng!

LuckyLloyd

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phantom_lord

Mellor wrote:

but could i ever lay this down because after this hand the table is likely to be lose a player, with two short stacks remaining. I generally play for the win,

Lay it down and play the buble, fairly sure I could cash
or gambol when behind to be in a position to win.
blinds are still very small

no, folding here is just plain ridiculous. If this was the bubble of the irish open I'd yell ship it!

Mellor

LuckyLloyd wrote:

Mellor, with the absolute greatest of respect; this is not really a close or particularly interesting decision. You are getting 4 - 1 on the call. About 1 in five times you will be up against KK / AQ / JJ - i.e. miles ahead. At that level, you will see some really random sh!t turned over - maybe even an underpair to the board from one of the villains sometimes. You ship it. You win the hand, you win the STT (unless something unforseen happens). You lose the hand, you spend less time grinding against a now massive stack and huge favorite ftw to boot. You move on to the next one.

No serious player can envisage a fold here. Considerations such as the blind levels or your abillity relative to the rest of the table aren't really relevant. You have a monster hand, are getting a huge price: SHIP IT!! End of.

I couldn't lay it down, I knew I was behind but I knew it was +ev calling, but a country mile. I knew I was going to bust out more often than not, but was counting on the time I win to take it down.
But this has happen alot lately and just needed a second opinion on it. I was thinking that tourney life didnt come into it,
and when my turn came I insta-called.
I lost the hand, and the table had three left, including the shortest stack who now cashed. I started second guessing my decision,

as for the hands I was up against, K10 for the straight, top pair, and the straight draw,

jacQues

Mellor wrote:

Dealt to hero, QdQc
Ac Qh Js

Hero checks
BB bets 1590, all-in
UTG raises all-in, (3630 total)
CO calls, all-in (1670)
Hero ???

I understand what Mellor says, but would do so only if I would actually reach the money by folding. Reaching the bubble doesn't cut it IMHO. Therefore; its a call.

I think that even if it was Jd Jc on a Ah Qh Jh flop you have the odds to call. Being behind isn't uncommon in a four-way all-in. Your aim here is to be chipleader and win it. If you win this hand 1/3 times you're doing well. Think about it, winning once >> cashing out 3rd place three times.

jacQues

5starpool

Move on to the next sit and go. If they had striaght draw, 2 pair and top pair respectively and your set had won the pot would you be posting this? Lose the hand and you are out with nothing, win you are a monster stack and favourite to win it. Fold you might limp into 3rd or need to get lucky to get higher.